2019 Box Office Flops
Movies will be added throughout the year
Pending: Cats | Richard Jewell | Charlie’s Angels | Motherless Brooklyn | Where’d You Go, Bernadette | The Current War
Ad AstraBudget: $80 million
Financed by: New Regency; FOX; Bona Film Group
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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AnnaBudget: $30 million
Financed by: EuropaCorp; OCS; TF1; Canal+; TMC
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Arctic DogsBudget: $50 million
Financed by: AMBI Group
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Captive StateBudget: $25 million
Financed by: Participant Media
Domestic Box Office: $5,958,315
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Cold PursuitBudget: $60 million
Financed by: StudioCanal
Domestic Box Office: $32,138,862
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Dark PhoenixBudget: $200 million
Financed by: FOX; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Doctor SleepBudget: $47 million
Financed by: Warner Bros
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Gemini ManBudget: $138 million
Financed by: Skydance Media; Paramount; Fosun; Alibaba Pictures
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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HellboyBudget: $50 million
Financed by: Millennium Films
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Long ShotBudget: $40 million
Financed by: Lionsgate
Domestic Box Office: $30,316,271
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Lucy In The SkyBudget: $21,422,000
Financed by: Fox Searchlight; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: $319,976
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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MidwayBudget: $98 million
Financed by: Starlight Culture Entertainment Group; RuYi Media; Bona Film Group
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Missing LinkBudget: $100 million (estimated)
Financed by: Laika
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Playmobil: The MovieBudget: $72 million
Financed by: Mediawan
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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ReplicasBudget: N/A
Financed by: Riverstone Pictures; Remstar Studios
Domestic Box Office: $4,046,429
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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SerenityBudget: $25 million
Financed by: IM Global
Domestic Box Office: $8,543,442
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Terminator: Dark FateBudget: $185 million
Financed by: Skydance Media; Paramount; FOX; Tencent Pictures; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The GoldfinchBudget: $44 million
Financed by: Warner Bros; Amazon Studios
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The Kid Who Would Be KingBudget: $59 million
Financed by: FOX; Working Title; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: $16,790,790
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The KitchenBudget: $38 million
Financed by: Warner Bros; BRON Studios; Creative Wealth Media Finance
Domestic Box Office: $12,180,032
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The Professor and the MadmanBudget: $26.3 million
Financed by: Voltage Pictures; Fábrica de Cine; Fís Éireann/Screen Ireland
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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UglyDollsBudget: $53 million
Financed by: STX; Alibaba Pictures
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Bad news for Dolittle and Underwater they both bomb at box-office:
for Fox Underwater, it got grossed $500,000 in previews and is expected to earn less than $10 million this weekend.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/box-office-1917-kristen-stewart-underwater-bombing-1203463081/
For Universal Dolittle, it will gross of $22 million to $28 million, a disappointing start for a movie that cost a net to lose lot and lot of movie.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dolittle-robert-downey-jr-looks-like-major-box-office-flop-2020-1
Hey RDB
Hey Bomb Report can you create box office bomb 2020 page?
No
Well, look like Underwater, Like a Boss, and The Grudge (2020) are the three films will be on the list for this 2020 page if you create.
Have patience must you *bows*
Okay
I can’t believe Dora and the Lost City of Gold broke even last year, because many Spanish speaking countries saw it, but would Nickelodeon make season 9 of Dora or not?
It’s 2020 and it seems no 2020 box office bombs incoming, and this page hasn’t create 2020 page
Underwater is expected to make around $6.6 million this weekend. Seems to be a strong contender.
PATIENCE !!!!!!!!
Geez
It seems “Star wars : The rise of Skywalker” are completely dropped every day even still #1. This is because “Jumanji : The Next Level”, and “Frozen 2” still persistent and grows more in WW (not counted USA) than Star Wars : The rise of Skywaler. Even The Last Jedi can manage well. I think the rate (RT, Meta, PT) of Star wars Series every sequel release dropped since The force Awakens restoring Star Wars despite returning old Director. Changing the director or not always affect the sequels regardless of condition. Your thoughts?
*pinches bridge of nose*
You are giving me a serious headache.
Underwater’s budget is around $80 million, and is projected to make $8 million opening weekend. Major oof.
Guess BR is going to need a 2020 section soon then.
LOL expect to see the new “Grudge” remake as the first bomb of the new decade. It was just hit with an ‘F’ CinemaScore. I don’t think a movie has achieved that since “Mother!”. And since this film is being released in the January dumping ground, I’m sure the studio is bracing for a big worldwide loss as well.
According to IMDb it only cost $10 million so unless an exception is made you won’t see it on this site.
That said this one might take the cake in the pantheon of unnecessary remakes/reboots.
The Devil Inside also received horrible reviews, got an F Cinemascore, and is the reason why January is considered a good month for horror movies (It earned over $100m WW). To be fair, The Devil Inside was the exception – it performed well compared to a typical F grade movie (The only one to be a legit success)
I doubt it with the cheap budget…
Looks like the Fox News biopic “Bombshell” isn’t doing so good. Cue the group of people who’ll scream “See, Hollywood? No one wants to see your ‘woke’ movies,” when no one went to see “Richard Jewell,” either.
What? Is Richard Jewell supposed to be an anti-woke movie or something?
*shrug*
Bombshell (2019)
Production Budget: $32,000,000
DBO $19,639,144 + WBO $485,000 = $20,124,144 (worldwide box office is 0.6 times production budget)
still has to be released in majority of international markets but chance of avoiding being flop does not look good at this moment
More on Universal’s mega-bomb in the making, “Dolittle”:
First of all, the film was originally slated for an April 2019 release, but was pushed back to the Memorial Day frame due to poor test screenings and re-shoots. Universal delayed the release again until December 2019, but to avoid “The Rise of Skywalker”, “Dolittle” was pushed back to the MLK holiday. This almost certainly spells doom not only for the movie, but also for a possible franchise based on the “Dolittle” stories.
Second, the official trailer shows that the $175M was not well spent, The CGI not only looks cheesy, but is pretty creepy, too. Between the bad buzz, the delays and this lousy trailer, “Dolittle” may be lucky to get a 30% rating on RT, depending on actual reviews. It didn’t take long for 2020 to get its first big bomb, did it?
OOPS…”Dolittle” was originally to be released just before Memorial Day 2019, but was pushed into the April 12 slot to avoid “The Rise of Skywalker” (which was moved to December). Because of the awful test screenings and reshoots, “Dolittle” was pushed back to the MLK holiday, and never meant to be released at Christmas. Anyway, Universal has a massive turkey on its hands!
*nonsense*
BlahblahblackchristmasblahblahadditorI’llsueyoublahblah
*more nonsense*
Your thoughts?
It made a profit, did it not? It had a $5M budget and grossed more than three times that to date, right?
NO ITS A BOMB BECAUSE I HATE IT I HATE HATE IT AND THEREFORE IT MUST BE ON THIS SITE. I MAKE UP THE RULES EVEN THOUGH THIS ISNT MY SITE AND I HAVE NO SENSE OF LOGIC AND GRANTED IT MADE SOME PROFIT I STILL HATE IT AND IT MADE SO LITTLE MONEY OH MY GOD HAAAAAAATEEEE AAAAGGGHHHHHHH
Your thoughts?
Sounds like a feat of sarcasm, but may as well bite. This site is only for movies that lost money, no matter the quality. And even then Bomb Report only restricts low money losers to the most notorious.
People may want movies like The Last Airbender or The Emoji Movie on this site because they hate them, but they did decent business at the box office. It all comes down to how much money they lost.
The fact of the matter is that Black Christmas (wisely) avoided being the next Death Wish reboot by keeping their budget low low low, and they made a profit in the end. If this were a site on the quality of movies (and he does tend to throw out the adjective directed at the movie’s quality when needed), it probably would have been noted. But this is mostly about being a major money loser, and Black Christmas did okay.
Plus BR has a minimum budget requirement of $20 million. BC had a budget of about $5 million. Even if only three people paid to see the film, this site still wouldn’t cover it.
According to my prediction about upcoming blockbuster, updated for 2020, based on Indonesia standard Time :
Bad Boys for Life: Hit (40-45 million USD box office).
Dolittle: Minor Bomb
Birds of Prey (And The Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn): Hit
Sonic the Hedgehog: Gotta go Hit (this all-new design is better than this old one that abomination)
Onward: Hit
Bloodshot: Doubtful
A Quiet Place: Part II: Hit
Mulan (2020): Doubtful
Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway: Hit
The New Mutants: Bombed (ITS WORST THAN DARK PHOENIX)
Trolls World Tour: Doubtful
Black Widow: Hit
Scoob: Hit
Fast & Furious 9; Hit
The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run: Bombed
Artemis Fowl: Doubtful
Wonder Woman 1984: Hit
Soul: Hit
Top Gun: Maverick: Hit
Minions: The Rise of Gru: Hit
Ghostbusters: Afterlife: Hit
Bob’s Burgers: The Movie: Hit
Jungle Cruise: Hit
Morbius: Hit
Nobody: Bomb
The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It: Hit
The King’s Man: Hit
Venom 2: Hit
Death on the Nile: Hit
The Eternals: Hit
Godzilla vs Kong: Bomb
Raya and the Last Dragon: Hit
Dune: Bomb
Uncharted: Hit
Coming 2 America: Bomb
The Croods 2: Hit
Tom and Jerry: Doubtful
Ok Alexander
Dolittle is going to be a MAJOR bomb. Its production budget is $175 mil, but it’s releasing in January (infamously a dumping ground for movies studios have no faith in, like Oz: The Great And Powerful). Deadline is projecting Dolittle will only gross $25 million opening weekend when it needs about $600 million just to breakeven.
I’m quite surprised that a studio would tackle a more faithful take on the original “Dr. Dolittle” books when most people tend to associate the story with the Eddie Murphy movies from the ’90s. And it’s also quite surprising that in the ’90s someone thought it would be a good idea to make a “Dr. Dolittle” movie when the last attempt from the ’60s was a monumental disaster. I’m only assuming this got made because it was a passion project for Robert Downey, Jr.
It’s also going to be a great risk for RDJ. since this will be the next major attempt for him to prove to the world he’s not Iron Man (or Sherlock Holmes, for that matter). If this movie bombs, it will only cement his typecasting. ;(
Hold on to your hats…could “Dolittle” be an even bigger bomb for Universal than “Cats”? With its $175M budget (plus marketing costs that could make the total balloon to over $300M), reshoots, and release pushbacks (always a bad omen), it could be a box office disaster on the level of “John Carter”! I’ve seen a trailer and it does NOT look good…
2020 animated list. Can you predict it?
Sonic the Hedgehog
Onward
The Croods 2
Trolls : World Tour
Soul
Scoob
The Spongebob Movie : Sponge on the Run
Tom & Jerry
Note : Peter Rabbit 2 is not counted, although the trailer isn’t animated.
2019 animated movies in a nutshell :
HTTYDTHW : Hit
Wonder Park : Bombed
Uglydolls : Bombed
Toy story 4 : Hit
Frozen 2 : Hit
Spies in disguise : Below average
Playmobil : Bombed
Arctic Dogs : Bombed
Missing Link : Bombed
Angry Birds 2 : Below average
Lego Movie 2 : Below average
The Secret Life of pets 2 : Below average
Abominable : Below average
The Addams : Below average
Your thoughts?
My thoughts : Too many underperformed animated films, not such good as 2018.
Note : The Lion King is not counted because the movies isn’t too animated. Average movies is categorized as below Average.
No I’m pretty sure the Addams Family did well.
Wow you really can predict the future Garfield
Wow! A lot of the animated movies really did bomb in 2019.
Just saw a preview for The Call of the Wild, and good Lord almighty you can book that abomination of the source material for a spot on the 2020 page. I would have thought we could do CGI dogs by now but I guess not. Guess I should be happy they didn’t make Buck talk.
Spies In Disguise: hit or miss?
Spies in Disguise is a hit. and a total success,
Lol
Can you add Cats Mr. Bomb Report sir, this film 95 million USD budget and got the worst opening ever?
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/23/20-worst-movie-box-office-opening-weekends-us-domestic
https://www.creativebloq.com/news/cats-updated-cgi
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/box-office-bomb-how-creepy-cgi-and-bad-buzz-killed-cats/ar-BBYh7TO
I think it might be best to give it a few more weekends to see how much it holds on. The Greatest Showman had a lousy opening but still managed to do okay in the long run. Even though the odds are against Cats for doing the same, it could happen.
It fell to #9 this week, so.,, it’s gonna be here.
Already added to pending. Niceeeee
U need patience. The sites owner is not a flighty birdbrain. He just added to pending – and don’t flatter yourself, it wasn’t because of you
When is Charlie’s angels going to be on the list this movie has bombed hard with its woke garbage politics.
“Charlie’s Angels” hasn’t been relevant in years and that’s why it bombed. No victory for conservative white men to be seen here.
Agreed Charlie’s Angels (2019) is the worst reboot ever.
Can’t say I’ve seen it because I haven’t. But it has to do something pretty low to top something like The Haunting or Rollerball or Swept Away as the worst remake ever. (Also, not exactly a remake since it works with both the TV show and movie to be its own thing in the franchise.)
The original reboot also had zero relevance at the time it was released but it and its sequel both made money. Sorry honey woke trash that doesn’t have brand recognition doesn’t sell.
Your delusion is hilarious. Charlie’s Angels bombed because Elizabeth Banks in her own words made a film for feminists because “men have too many films already” and ‘Captain Marvel & Wonder Woman don’t count because superhero movies are a male space.” And then she blamed men for not watching the movie. Conservative white men won big this year. Dark Phoenix, Terminator & Charlie’s Angels all had 3 female leads and all of them were financial disasters. Oops!
Speaking of delusional. Woooooo
Hey, Bomb Report can you add Cats and Black Christmas on the list?
I think “Black Christmas” has a production budget of under $20 million, which would disqualify it from contending for this site (even though it still did very terrible at the box office).
On the other hand, the estimated budget for “Cats” is around $80 to 100 million, which (given a bad reception and more limited legs) won’t really allow the film to be profitable in the end,
This guy was warned about Black Christmas’ budget several times. He’s just not getting it, illiterate, or English isn’t his first language.
Stop it with the black Christmas. It’s below the cut off for budgets to register as a bomb OR even show up on this website
Sigh, Shut your yap, I know what I doing
No you don’t bonehead. Shut YOUR yap
Sigh SHUT THE HELL UP BLACK CHRISTMAS REMAKE DESERVE IT FOR BEING The WORST FILM EVER
Lol sure it does deserve it!! But it’s just not going to be added to this website. It’s below 20m budget per the owner’s rules. . You’ve been told many times (yes it’s just you posting in multiple names) yet you continue whining. You can have your tantrum all you want, it’s. Just. not. happening. Maybe create your own website and go have at it. In the meantime… quit whining crybaby.
While “The Rise of Skywalker” proved that the “Star Wars” theatrical franchise has run out of gas, “Cats” was doomed from its initial trailer back in May. Universal’s pathetic attempts to do damage control will backfire, and this ill-conceived musical will sweep the Razzies and become one of the biggest box-office bombs of all time! (Frankly, I’m surprised it didn’t get a 0 on RT, given the hostile reviews!)
As for 2020’s two musical releases, “In The Heights” has limited appeal while Spielberg’s remake of “West Side Story” may suffer the same fate as “Cats” (and it has a pricey $100M budget!) Only time will tell…
Well, the big issue most people had with the Cats movie is the effects, which have been confirmed to be unfinished. They literally rushed it out so that it would be in theaters before Christmas. Theaters are getting an updated version this week. West Side Story will probably do better because it shouldn’t have any off-putting CGI in it.
TRoS’s problem is that TLJ broke the fanbase and TRoS really is a bad film with massive plot holes, an over-abundance of ass pulls, and flat out ignoring, if not disrespecting, previously established canon. It’ll need a major miracle for it to make $1b globally by the end of its run. Even if it isn’t technically a flop, the damage dealt to merchandising and the like is going to be devastating. However, should it fail to reach the $1b globally mark, it probably is a bomb due to how much it cost with all of the expensive re-shoots and how much was likely spent on P&A.
It was initially claimed that the budget of Cats was as high as $300m. If that were true, Cats would be the worst money loser since Mars Needs Moms (John Carter and Lone Ranger made back their production budgets, while Mortal Engines made $80m WW on a 100m budget – Compare that to 39m on a 150m budget)
It has around a $95M budget. That $300M figure is an absurd hoax.
You’re forgetting about the theaters’ cuts of the gross. Mortal Engines grossed $80M but theaters get around half of that. The people who actually made the film get $40 million. Considering the film cost around $100 million and they probably paid at least $20 million to advertise it, they lost at least $80 million. It was a total disaster.
They lost $175m when all was said and done, which sucks because Mortal Engines had an amazing concept. They could have explored how such a society would have functioned, but it will never happen now.
Cassandra Clare is just a thief who plagarizes everything from TV shows she watched as a teen anyway. If you’re wasting money buying her books and watching her movies, you might as well just pay the people she stole all her concepts, plot & dialogue from.
Well, the opening weekend has hit Cats, and it bombed, earning just $10.9 million on a $95 million budget. In addition, it has a 2.6/10 on IMDb and a C+ Cinemascore, so I wouldn’t plan on it having legs. Also, they will be improving the visual effects after the movie had already released, so that will hurt word of mouth even more. Expect this to lose at least $50 million (and that’s being very conservative about the losses.)
About the opening weekend figure. The $10.9 million was worldwide. It earned about $6.5 million in the States and $4.4 million internationally.
Apparently, “Cats” wasn’t finished in time for its release date and Universal is now releasing updated prints with “improved special effects.”
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/cats-improved-visual-effects-universal-1203450629/
Time will tell if this will hurt word-of-mouth even more.
This site is for EVERY movie that bombed not every movie that cost atleast $20 million to make.
In my opinion all movies are okay to add regardless of how much money it cost to make.
Eh, defining that in and of itself can be tricky if you just go ahead and allow every single movie that ever bombed. Besides, it can be pretty vague when you decide to throw in so many more movies. Not all of the information present for each film is correct, and for lesser budgeted movies it can be a lot trickier to pinpoint how much of a loss it was (the site does have exceptions).
A $20M limit is a fair metric to use since it already covers enough ground.
This site made it a rule to not admit movies under 20m budget you pretentious dingbat
Your opinion is crap and you clearly didn’t know the rules here.
Cats bomb so hard now Universal will lose a lot of money for this add Cats on the list sorry Steven Spielberg and Universal.
Cats will probably end up with $35 million tops domestically. However, I think it may be a little premature to write its obituary – let’s at least wait a few weeks and see how the foreign run plays out.
If Cats end up with $35 million well its will be on the list
Cats seems completely bombed. Only 2 millions debut. And Star wars 90 million debut. Even domestic Star wars can higher than Avengers endgame, Star wars is likely to hit. Debut prediction is above frozen 2.
Does Cats movies is a franchise fatigue? Many are become a victim, such as Dark Phoenix, Terminator Dark Fate, Godzilla King of the Monsters, Lego Movie 2, Maleficent 2, Jumanji 3, and poor remake such as MIB INT.
It’s been quiet here lately.
No bombs I presume?
There’s still Cats … let’s get ready for the attack!!
Oh man all the comments never loaded for me – it looked quiet to me. Oh well. Let’s get to slaughtering these meows.
What a Catastrophe!
Ok, real talk time.
Is there a chance when it’s all said and done RoS could be a bomb? The die hards will see it multiple times obviously but this thing is getting SAVAGED critically. Could it scare enough casuals away to put it in the red?
No idea what the break even point would be, but I think the opposite of what you said will be true. The die-hards are going to stay clear or only see it once. The casuals will see it once and only once. Expect a big opening weekend, followed by massive drops each week afterward. Few will come back for repeat viewings.
I’ll wager a guess that the break even point is at $1 bn globally. However, SW is NOT a strong performer internationally. At a minimum, the opening weekend needs to be over $200 mil to even hope to reach the billion mark, but $250 mil is much more ideal. Should it fail to reach the $200 mark, it deserves to be placed on the pending list.
Update: It’s flopping in China. It’s opening at least in 4th behind 3 Chinese films. It is also projected to gross $18 million total in China. Not $18 million in its opening weekend, $18 million TOTAL.
https://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-flop-at-china-box-office-2019-12
Without China, this movie is probably screwed.
You may be right about the die hards…I have a coworker who is one, he loves all SW content, even TLJ. He saw RoS yesterday and even he said it sucked. The last guy in the world I thought would say it sucks, is saying it sucks.
Obviously this is only one guy, but I’m literally shocked that he hated it.
I doubtful Jumanji 3 will underperformed because of Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker and Frozen 2 I look at the BOM website, it only gross 226 million. And today is Star Wars 9 debut, and it can rip Jumanji 3 . Cats seems bombed even helped with Jason Derulo and Taylor Swift
Your thoughts?
Well, Jumanji 3 and Frozen 2 are the hit but the 6 sequel film Godzilla: King of the Monsters, The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part, X-Men: Dark Phoenix, The Secret Life of Pets 2, Men in Black: International and Shaft all played to disappointing are not cause those 6 all fretted about sequel fatigue, franchise fatigue and failed.
I’m pretty certain Cats will get on the list. It is experiencing absolutely atrocious reviews (16% on RT and 33 on Metacritic) in addition to a $95 million budget. It will be absolutely murdered by The Rise of Skywalker, tracking with a $14 million to $17 million opening in the states. It will likely not leg out in the states and do that good overseas, so I think Cats will get on this list.
Fruitcakes in Europe will probably love it though.
Too funny!
True. 95 million budgets won’t help Cats break even. Ford v. Ferrari do that with that budget. And ppl are likely to watch The Rise of Skywalker in the end of this year
Is Ford v Ferrari on the cusp?
No Ford v Ferrari is a total box office hit.
that film is a success.
That is great news! Thanks!
Add Black Christmas (2019) on the list it has the Worst Wide Openings – Saturated 2,500+ Theaters
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1308788225/rankings/?ref_=bo_rl_tab#tabs
That is true but the budget is too low to be considered for this website – $5 million. I believe the minimum is $20 million.
Yes, that why Black Christmas (2019) will be on the list until it hit $25 million.
No, what I meant is that it cost $5 million to make the film, Not that it took in $5 million in gross.
*facepalm*
Dude just stop. We all know it’s a disaster but it’s too low budget to be added here.
Well according to https://www.boxofficemojo.com Black Christmas has the Worst Wide Openings – Saturated 2,500+ Theaters and Richard Jewell have the same thing too.
Just thinking about it…Wasn’t the “Beach Bum” a bomb?
Budget was too low to be added, but it was a major bomb.
Ohh okay, makes sense- t h a n k s
Add Black Christmas and Richard Jewell on the list because of two films both bomb and disappointing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/12/14/friday-box-office-richard-jewell-clint-eastwood-black-christmas-adam-sandler-charlize-theron-margot-robbie-bombshell-uncut-gems/
Black Christmas won’t since it’s a small budget movie.(approx. $5-6$ mill budget).
Richard Jewel could end up on this list with a $45 million budget and an expected weekend of less than $5 million.
Which would be the biggest farce yet here as it’s a great movie and only getting trashed due to the media being butt hurt that their trust is and the FBI always narrative is being shown to be total crap. Filthy muckrakers.
Other than the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s lawsuit, I see no evidence of the media tarring and feathering this movie.
They won’t sue no standing just griping cause they hate being call out for the worthless homunculi they are
Also: Clint’s last two movies (15:17 To Paris & The Mule) were absolutely dreadful, boring pictures. I don’t blame anyone for sitting this one out when the last two were terrible. I know I am.
I’m generally curious- for 2019, what are some movies that were either expected to be on the list and weren’t or were surprising huts?
*hits, sorry
Maleficent 2, Dumbo, Men in Black: International just to name a few.
Men in Black: International barely break even.
Alita: Battle Angel
My prediction of the top 10 to be a box office bomb for 2020 are:
2020 Box Office Bomb Prediction:
1. The New Mutants
2. The Gentlemen
3. The Photograph
4. The Way Back
5. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run
6. Bloodshot
7. Underwater
8. Artemis Fowl
9. Free Guy
10. The Purge 5
My predicitions:
Underwater
Like a Boss
Dolittle
The Rhythm Section
Sonic the Hedgehog
Bloodshot
The Call of the Wild
The Way Back
The New Mutants
The Woman in the Window
Artemis Fowl
Monster Hunter
Snake Eyes
Godzilla vs King Kong
West Side Story
Uncharted
The Tomorrow War
Wow, everybody is saying “New Mutants” lol
Disagree with 5 and 9.
Keep an eye on ’21 Bridges’.
My early prediction for the 2020 list..
FREE GUY
Just saw the trailer..
Guess who got the fourth worst wide opening weekend?
Anything woke will go broke.
Obvious “Thequarterpounder” fan #8276
Obvious shill for badly managed cooperations #14160
Playmobil was woke? Huh?
Maybe he’s referring to Won’t Back Down. The Woke anti-union flop? 4th worst wide opening at 2,500+ . Playmobil is 4th for 2,000+
Unless that is the “woke” movie he is referring to? No one has seen it so who knows.
Add Playmobil: the Movie on the list its got the worst opening.
Even my daughter didn’t want to see this one.
As I’m writing this comment, Playmobil looks to set the record for the third worst opening movie for a kids movie in 2,000 or more theaters with a scant $167,000 opening (the other notorious bombs: The Ooglieloves In The Big Balloon Adventure = $443,901 and Delgo = $511,920). This was definitely not a great 2019 for animated films (not named Disney and DreamWorks) that tried their luck on earning a profit but failed to connect with audiences because kids don’t know what the movie is about. STX can just give up the movie and pull it from theaters instead.
Agreed.
As other people have said, there is no way that Playmobil: The Movie will turn a profit. It has earned $12,462,516 across 4 months overseas, so the international dollar cannot say it. In addition, it will not likely top $800,000 over the weekend. Even if it earns 4 times its opening weekend, it will earn about $15.6 million worldwide. However, it will likely not even earn this much, since it has a 4.5/10 on IMDB, a 25% Metacritic, a 19% Rotten Tomatoes, and a B+ Cinemascore. To earn back it’s budget even once, the movie will have to earn about 78.171855 times its opening weekend. So far, the record is held by Raiders of the Lost Ark, which earned about 27.17 times its opening weekend. Let’s just say that Playmobil will need a Christmas miracle to break even.
Playmobil will probably make less than a million this weekend.
STX didn’t learn from the “UglyDolls” fiasco, did it? “Playmobil” is yet another franchise wannabe that got soundly rejected by the public; the culprit, of course, is bad storytelling…
STX did not invest money in the movie, they just distribute the movie and will receive a distribution fee. And according to Deadline, P&A spending was only $ 3 million, as they probably predicted it would be a flop.
From what I gather, the movie had already bombed in the UK and France in August, so STX must have known it didn’t have much of a chance in America.
Looks like it won’t get that!
Like like a bit over 700,000 lmao
Might as well remind you about “Playmobil: The Movie”, which is out on the 6th in America and apparently cost $75 million to make.
I’m pretty sure Ford V Ferrari did fine. Not a success but not a huge flop.
I’m amazed it hasn’t done better with word of mouth- a really great film
So Charlie Angels are completely bombed and yet still on the list . Same like Uglydolls case. Meanwhile it dropped to rank 12th on incomes. Only 46 million USD incomes just 2 weeks released. Comparing to Ford v. Ferrari, it gross slowly, and now it’s 111 million USD.
Your thoughts about Charlie Angels and Ford v. Ferrari?
After 3 weeks of release, Charlie’s Angels currently has a worldwide gross of $51.5 million on a $48 million production budget which is not good, but still better than most of the films on this list.
A worldwide gross of $51 million is TERRIBLE. Revenue is split in half for domestic box office, and foreign revenue only gives studios 33% back. At most, the studio has barely even received $20 million back out of the total so far. Even for a mid-range flick, Charlie’s Angels is as much of a bomb as Dark Phenix and Terminator: Dark Fate.
Sony predicted thus would Bomb so thry cut their advertising budget from $100m to $50m. So it didn’t even make back its advertising budget so this is a major bomb.
Charlie’s Angels looks horrible. The next Kristen Stewart moving coming out, Underwater, has Mega-Bomb written all over it. She cannot act, why does she keep getting movies??? Midway was good, too bad people don’t care. This should be required watching in history class. Ford v. Ferrari was good, just not the type of movie for everybody. Star Wars will be huge because it supposedly wraps up everything, we’ll see.
Clearly you haven’t seen anything else of Kristen Stewart besides her crappy big budget films. The 1970s version of Midway is miles ahead of the recent one too
Ford v. Ferrari is likely to avoid box office bombs. Within Frozen 2 release, and only 103 million USD within 90 million budget.
Your thoughts about Ford v. Ferrari?
Can Jumanji 3 and Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker still better than prequel? or worse?
I sure hope Ford v Ferrari doesn’t make the list- the movie was phenomenal!!
Positive : Great Movies, great story, high rate, get positive applause, freshly recommended
Negative : High budget and low box office, similar to Terminator Dark Fate
I definitely want to see this film next.
What is all your thoughts on the box office this year? Was it better or worse than last year’s?
Movies to be added:
The Current War
Doctor Sleep
Midway
Playmobil: The Movie
Ford v Ferrari
Two words: Charlie’s. Angels.
The only underperforming sequel this year that may have not killed the franchise is Godzilla 2. There are only 2 sequels left to be released this year (Jumanji 3 and Star Wars 9, both of which should do fine)
I’m not so sure about Star Wars.
There is just no hype for this film with only a month before its release. It’ll probably make a profit, but whether or not it underperforms is an entirely different question.
There’s no hype…in your head. Seriously you don’t speak for everyone else
Where is the media hype? Where’s the commercials? Where is the Merchandise hyping? Other than some YouTube trailers and one video game where is the festivity’s
He’s right. There is no hype. There is only dread. Disney is dreading it, hence why they spent so much money doing Reshoots, Kathleen Kennedy is dreading it because her career is at stake, Bob Iger is dreading it since he already said there will be no more Star Wars films for the next 5 years, Fans are dreading it because they already know it’s going to retcon 40 years of established canon, Feminists are dreading it because it will prove the Fandom Menace right if it bombs the way Last Jedi did, and now even the general public is dreading it after that stupid “They fly now?” trailer got meme’d and became a laughingstock.
What part of any of this sounds like “hype” to you? Stop deluding yourself.
(To Justin):
Michael Wilk, is that you, you moronic piece of sh-t?
Yeah all these racist incel trump supporters are making all this up. It’s sad…so deluded. It’s still going to make a sh**t ton of money just like Last Jedi did -maybe not close, but still soooooooo much more than Midway. It’s not going to bomb like Solo. I’m tired of hearing all these dumb*sses going on and on. Just go jump off a bridge already.
Wow someone’s bitter and now one brought politics into this so stuff that firmly in your ass. Also really using incel as an insult unironicly ok boomer. Btw never said it would bomb just not make anywhere near as much money as the past films, and yes there is very little hype for this movie compared to ROTS and hell even TLJ it’s a barren wasteland of tanking merch sales one film bomb and several video game flops. The only two good things this movie has going for it besides brand recognition are 1) the mandlorian (clearly when someone with even the slightest talent comes along I.e. anyone other than Kathleen Kennedy the series makes quality programming) and 2) the recent video game fallen order (which succeeded by simply not being a pyramid scheme all la battlefront and not turning into a sociology circle jerk)
Midway (2019) has made “utt” 40 mil $ on international market and 82%(32.8mil $)of that is coming from China and rest of the world came up with only 7.2 mil……
only few countries are left to go : Aus. Fra., Tur. and couple smaller ones
Midway will not make more than 60 mil on international market & 50 mil in US looks like max it can get
all that on 100 mil $ budget……
Is Midway doing well? I really want to see it this weekend.
It seems the old Charlie Angels (Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, and Lucy Liu) still better than currently casters and directors. Your thoughts? Ford v. Ferrari seems dropped in this weekend, due to Frozen 2 mass release.
We all know that Frozen II will probably get phenomenal business, My daughter is excited to see it. Ford v. Ferrari has great write ups, but it is doing about average business. I hope it will be a success.
Charlie’s angels will be on this list soon. Elizabeth Banks is alreasy playing the SJW card and blaming men for this mediocre film’s bombing.
Of the three main characters I only recognize Kristen Stewart and I’m not a fan of the Twilight series. I won’t rush out to theatres to see it but since it’s an action movie I’ll probably get around to watching it next year when it’s on disc or if it’s on a streaming service I subscribe to .
Naomi Scott was in Aladdin and that Power Rangers movie. She and Kristen Stewart need to be in a better movie. The other lead was really bland. When an audience full of the target audience wasn’t laughing, it said everything that I needed to know
You’re a douche. Bye
Sexist.
Men use douches too (nice try hgonz)
You mad because it’s the truth. Banks blaming men for the film being sh-tty is what she did.
I think “Charlie’s Angels” should be added to the pending list. It has debuted very poorly in North America with just $8.3 million, part of a global opening of only around $27 million.
This could suggest a global box office of less than $70 million, which (relative to a $48 million budget) would render the latest attempted franchise reboot a flop in the end.
Comparing to Ford v. Ferrari and Charlie’s Angels incomes, both movies are actually underperformed. Ford v. Ferrari only got 52 million debut within 97 million USD budget. Despite get positive reviews, this movies seems underperformed. And even Charlie Angels, underperformed too. Only got 28 million USD within 55 million budget. Rating on Charlie Angels seems average, only 60% in RT, PostTrak 46%, Metacritic 51%, and only get B+ in CInemaScore.
I’m surprised Ford v Ferrari cost that much. The opening figures are certainly great for a movie of that genre, however.
I can see Charlie’s Angels turning a profit, but a very meagre one.
Lol Ford v Ferrari kicked Charlie’s Angels ass this week.
I didn’t even know another Charlie’s Angels movie was coming out in the first place. How much did they spend on marketing? A nickel?
Only 28 millions incomes on debut. Lower than Ford v. Ferrari, despite budget is lower than Ford v. Ferrari and Joker. Seems underperformed
Ford v. Ferrari had 97.6 million USD budget, and only got 10 million in first day. Despite later or very limited release in worldwide, and have 92% RT. 81% Metracritic, A+ Cinemascore, and 87% PostTrak, can they avoid box office bombs? Your thoughts about Ford v. ferrari? Need at least 200 million USD to break even, and higher than Joker budget (70 million USD)
This reboot was doomed to fail after the bad trailers.
How ‘Charlie’s Angels’ Fell From Grace At The Box Office With An $8M+ Opening
https://deadline.com/2019/11/charlies-angels-bombs-at-box-office-reasons-why-1202787938/
The only Charlie’s Angels reboot I’m interested in would be one that’s set in the 1970s and is a campy homage to the original television show sort of like the Beverly Hillbillies movie of the 1990s that was basically a color version of the original 1960s TV show.
It seems like Arctic Dogs has ended its domestic run, as it’s not listed on Box Office mojo and Pro on Tuesday.
If it did end its run, it only made 5.14 million domestically from a 3.1 million opening weekend.
Nah they do have another weekend. Why bother tho
It has taken 63% and 80% weekend drops already. I guess even passing the conservative “opening weekend” estimates of of 10 million from ES seems absolutely impossible now.
I don’t think Rambo: Last Blood will end up on this website. Its figures may not be pretty – $87 million on a $50 million budget – but Lionsgate themselves have said that the film had a “strong theatrical performance”.
http://investors.lionsgate.com/press-releases-and-events/press-releases/2019/11-07-2019-210708107
It will
Odd that Lionsgate looked at those figures and were satisfied with them,
That’s simply because Lionsgate is only a distributor; Millennium produced and financed the entire film.
Midway 2019 with 100 mil. budget is almost sure to flop….
at moment (5 days in release) is already pacing 11 mil behind Terminator:DF and trailing more than 60 mil at international markets
movie marketing team played on US patriotism (“veterans w”.) and while that was good enough for 1st place at weekend chart it is far from being profitable …
For good or ill the trailers for Midway (2019) made it looked like a sequel to Pearl Harbor (2001) with the same level of CGI quality. I assume it’ll be on Netflix by summer 2020 and can catch it then.
I blame women
Women are always broke ass losers, they can’t afford movie tickets anyway.
I doubtful if Doctor Sleep, Midway, and Charlie Angels likely to be hit. Many people predict these three bombs are likely to be average despite low budget. And some people believe Frozen 2 likely to hit as well even Joker already almost to gross 1 billion USD worldwide.
Some movies like “Lego Movie 2”, “Rambo : Last Blood”, “MIB International”, “Dumbo” are stripped on this list even neither bombed nor massive hit.
Can Frozen 2 avoid the box office bombs? Despite with good schedule release, but Jumanji : The Next Level and Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker, can haunt everything in box office
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Well, you don’t have to put Rambo Last Blood on this list. it succeeded. Shocked about Doctor Sleep. It was really a good movie.
Rambo’s probably not going to hit $100 million off a $50 million budget. It’s a flop.
Sorry pal. Rambo bombed. I blame women.
But at least Stallone did not blame women or men for the film underperforming like Banks did blaming men for her crappy film bombing.
By the way. More women went to see Rambo during its opening week than they did to see Charlie’s Angels during its opening week.
But yeah it’s men and women’s fault and not that it’s a mediocre woke piece of garbage.
It seems most of the bombed movies in this year are under 100 million budget. Comparing to list in 2016, 2019 bombed is likely to be worse than 2016, despite many movies bombed in 2016 are over 70 million USD, such as Alice Through The Looking Glass. Your thoughts?
thoughts for $100
I’m shocked that Doctor Sleep bombed in one of the worst Veterans Day box office weekend ever.
Boy, 2019 was a very odd year for Warner Bros. despite Joker making a sh-tload of money (which is nearing $1 billion by next week) and It: Chapter II succeeded expectations. Sadly, not one adult drama didn’t manage to do well. There are 6 WB movies that failed miserably: The Kitchen, Blinded By The Light (great movie), The Goldfinch, Western Stars (Bruce Springsteen documentary. Heard it was actually pretty good, sadly it wasn’t shown in my local theater here in Fairfield, CA), Motherless Brooklyn, and now Doctor Sleep. One by one all bombed. And is The Goldfinch really that bad?
I watched Western Stars in Columbus. I never listened to a whole lot of Springsteen before, but my roommate is a huge fan of his. I have to say it was incredible and enraptured me the entire time! I don’t really see it as a financial flop or success because it seems more of a passion project than anything else, and I don’t think how much money it makes was really of anyone’s concern.
Goldfinch wasn’t as bad as some movies on the list like “Gemini Man” or “Lucy in the sky” but it was incredibly long and filled with plot holes. The story was there but it was lost in the execution.
The marketing campaign alone cost more than double the movie’s budget. Bizarre.
‘Doctor Sleep’ Set To Lose $20M+ For Warner Bros. In Trio Of Fall Duds
Finance sources tell us today that Warner Bros.’ weekend Stephen King upset Doctor Sleep is poised to lose around $20M after all ancillaries, should it earn $100M at the global box office.
If ticket sales are lower, in the $80M range, then the loss swells to around $30M+. This comes after the grand under-performance of the mid-$50M Warner Bros. horror production…
Estimates figure that Doctor Sleep will clear $149M in revenues from global theatrical rentals, global free and pay TV, plus global home entertainment, including streaming next to combined production, global P&A, participations, residuals, and global home entertainment costs of $171M, (and, no, Joker did not cost $100M in global P&A!!)
Midway, Dr sleep, playing with fire, and last Christmas are all in serious trouble atm…
Playing with Fire was cheap enough it might break even, and Midway will break even if it legs out to $65 million in the States.
Last Christmas will be fine, that movie will do (very) good internationally….
we will have to wait (because int.n. release dates are all over Nov. & Dec. for final score
but in US movie is under-performing for sure..
The flops just decided to multiply in the past month, didn’t they…
Yes. Well I think most bombed 2019 movies is likely to be worse than bombed 2016 movies, despite unknown loss. Terminator Dark Fate seems bombed, lose 100-130 million USD. Maleficent 2 underperformed, Joker makes unexpected box office, and most of all bombed movies are below 100 million budget.
No kidding!
Which Stephen King adaptation is the biggest money loser? I understand most of them have low budgets, though. Dreamcatcher?
Whoa, Doctor Sleep is looking for a third place opening behind TDF in the 12 mil range on a $49 mil budget. If the domestic run ends below 30 mil, with little international excitement it may end up on this site. It will need super strong legs to avoid The.Bomb.
Charlie’s Angels appears to be heading towards an opening in the mid to high teens. However, the reported budget is an incredibly low $48 mil, so it is up in the air whether it will lose money especially considering long term ancillaries. A cash grab nonetheless, though.
Are The Lego Movie 2, and Godzilla KOTM considered bombs? Lego Movie 2 grossed out $105 million in the U.S, and Canada, and $85 million on a $99 million budget. As for Godzilla KOTM, it grossed out $385.9 million on a $70-200 million budget, making it a Box Office disappointment. Did these movies bomb?
The studio will probably see about 212 million back on Godzilla’s 185 million budget. That will cover its large P&A costs and a decent chunk of the production budget. With video and TV sales, it may get close to break even, even if losing some money. So I wouldn’t consider that a bomb.
The long-delayed The Current War cost $ 30 million and grossed just $ 10 million at the worldwide box office.
https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-last-harvey-weinstein-movie-the-current-war-2019-10
According to this Variety article, Disney called Ad Astra and The Art of Racing in the Rain “money-losers” in a quarterly report. When will they get write-ups?
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/disney-earnings-get-lift-from-lion-king-theme-parks-1203397307/
Keep an eye out for Midway. It has a reported budget of $100 million, it’s projected to earn $15 million, and it is getting not-so-great reviews.
Every single movie released by Summit this year has bombed (Except for John Wick Chapter 3). However, the success of John Wick made up for the shortcomings of Cold Pursuit, Hellboy, Long Shot, and Anna. Even last year, Summit released 3 movies, and only Uncle Drew was a success
How cool would it be for Summit to focus only on movies within the John Wick Universe?
It feels Lionsgate largely kept it around to honor contracts like HBO. Most of those movies didn’t even end up using the branding.
Nah
I feel like The Batman will flop, will be either a moderate or big money loser. Matt Reeves is far from a reliable director, Apes 3 made very little money despite its huge budget, and Robert Pattinson is more or less ridiculed worldwide due to the bulk of his well known work consisting of the Twilight movies. There is mostly nothing bankable about the movie, and this is not a Michael Keaton situation mind you, the Michael Keaton of thirty years ago was a well seasoned, well respected and, crucially, super talented actor. Pattinson is a good actor but simply not the same caliber as Keaton. A few more things: It took way too long for the project to remain in gestation (read:limbo. It was originally supposed to be directed by and star Ben Affleck, remember?), never a good sign. The story does not signal a spectacle (of course you don’t have to be a spectacle to be a good movie or make money, but so far nothing to excite anyone to plan to rush to the theaters when it comes, unlike the announcements of, say, MCU movies, for example). Finally, there simply is very little buzz about the movie, Remember how Aquaman got everyone excited at this point in production?
Anyway, I may be totally wrong since to movie just started shooting. Hopefully we will see a return to form for everyone’s favorite Dark Knight,
Matt Reeves is far from a reliable director. Same With Todd Phillips.
Apes 3 made very little money despite its huge budget. Even if it under performed wrt DOTPOTA, it earned more than ROTAPOTA, and is considered a success. ($490m WW)
Robert Pattinson is more or less ridiculed worldwide due to the bulk of his well known work consisting of the Twilight movies. He has since been trying to shake off that image, and his acclaimed roles in Good Time, Lost City of Z, and The Lighthouse imply that his efforts are bearing fruit.
It took way too long for the project to remain in gestation (read:limbo). Deadpool and Wonder Woman were also held in limbo.
The story does not signal a spectacle. Neither did Iron Man or Deadpool. Mortal Engines and BvS on the other hand…
The Apes movies are actually good though. That’s a big win in Reeves’ favor,
“Ridiculed worldwide” “bulk of his well known work consisting of Twilight movies”
What in blazes are you talking about? Twilight was 4 movies. He has made dozens more since then. 4 is not a “bulk”.
Ridiculed worldwide? You must be talking about Kristen Stewart and Jacob whatever his name is. I never watched Twilight, but I have watched Harry Potter & The Goblet Of Fire, Metropolis, Water For Elephants and The Lighthouse, as well as that James Dean movie he made … All of which were critically praised.
Maybe you should stop watching movies made for 13 year old girls and start watching films adults are interested in? As far as I’m aware the only ridicule you’re referring to is how people thought the books were stupid and that vampires should be scary, not sparkly. Sounds like the woman who wrote it was the one who got ridiculed worldwide?
Terminator: Dark Fate is pacing behind Dark Phoenix
Theaters count : 4,086 vs 3,721
4 days total : 31 mil $ vs 35 mil $
1st Monday drop : -73% vs -69%
Dark Phoenix (2019) total of $246 mil (65.8 +180.5) at this moment would be great for Terminator: Dark Fate
Terminator: Genisys ($432mil ) looks like smash hit compered to T Dark Fate
I’m new to this site- has a movie ever skipped the pending section and immediately go to the list?
I think Goldfinch did. Not sure. That was a guaranteed disaster right away.
Terminator Dark Fate – Pulled a mere $200 mn WW first week. (Including china)
This franchise had a real capability of doing a lot better. The promotions with only one Trailer cut and lot less buzz around the release, costed the openings for the movie.
The openings could have easily been 40% higher adding another $30 ~ $40mn on opening weekend.
This probably is the last one in the terminator Franchisee.
Actually, as of Monday, the worldwide total stands at a miserable $125, Dark Phoenix made about ten mil more at this exact point in time.
I’ve enjoyed and rewatched all Terminator movies except Genesys and still regret not seeing T2 in the theatre during its original run. But Dark Fate even with Linda Hamilton back just looks like a cgi snoozefest. Damn.
Is there a reason Rambo: Last Blood isn’t on here? After box office returns the movie will net less than 50 million worldwide. The advertising budget was probably equal to that, which will leave the entire 50 million budget untouched.
added to pending.
Which is the year’s biggest money loser so far? Ad Astra? Missing Link? Or most likely Dark Phoenix?
Probably Dark Phoenix
Dark Phoenix at the moment, but Terminator: Dark Fate’s making a grab for it.
Wow, with extreme erosion globally (it opened a week in advance in some territories), Dark Fate may finish under $200 million WORLDWIDE which is a nightmare even the most pessimistic people never expected. May make it to the top of the year’s biggest money losers list.
It shouldn’t have ended this way. The franchise always had great potential, with technology becoming a more and more important part of our lives. I simply don’t believe in interest waning irretrievably in a franchise, think about the James Bond franchise in the eighties with Timothy Dalton fading and having been later resurrected in a big way with Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig. All you need is creativity and a love for the source material. I predict there will not be a Terminator movie for a very long time, probably decades, if ever. It may well be sold to streaming or some other outlet for a cheap-o TV reincarnation, definitely not something the fandom at large would like to see. Looking at the broader issues, this may also permanently end Skydance’s (Larry Ellison’s company) participation in motion pictures, most likely in large tentpoles. Even Paramount will incur some significant damage, with Star Trek and Terminator franchises failing, it appears all they have left is the singular Misson Impossible franchise. I would not b surprised if they significantly downsize or just pull out of tentpole pictures altogether. A sad weekend for movies every which way.
Paramount is currently in a restructure already, especially now that their parent Viacom will be merging back CBS Corp. (for about the second time) at the end of this year.
*merging back with
Yes, plus the Terminator rights from what I understand will revert back to Cameron and ex wife Gale Ann Hurd some time next year due to the law in the U S requiring all copyright reverting to the original creators after 35 years, so it is possible one of four things may happen for the franchise’s future, or lack thereof:
1. Cameron, Hurd and Larry Ellison continue to produce new content by mutually agreeing on something, such as a CBS All Access series. This is unlikely, as after two failures, Cameron will probably want to keep the franchise as far away from Ellison as possible.
2. Cameron and Hurd agree on a fresh start for the franchise. The problem with this scenario is, interest in the franchise can probably only be resurrected if Maestro himself, Cameron, would direct it. However, it is unlikely, as he is totally booked for the next four to five years mostly with the Avatar sequels, and he indicated his lack of interest to continue Terminator story in a hands on way.
3. Hurd and Cameron do not agree on how to proceed, or neither of them is interested in continuing, in which case the franchise is put to rest indefinitely. With the current B.O. fiasco, this appears to be the most likely scenario. From an investment perspective, the franchise turned toxic this past weekend, hence it will be a challenge for the franchise owner to attract money.
4. Gale Ann Hurd takes over the franchise and continues it in some format, possibly in an inexpensive way,
Time will tell, let’s hope something good happens to the franchise as opposed to the last 28 years.
Seems like “Terminator: Dark Fate” and “Arctic Dogs” should be added to the pending list. Both are tanking in their debuts at the box office, with the former opening to just $27 million domestically (plus less than $30 million in China, its strongest overseas territory) on a $185 million budget and the latter starting with only $3.1 million in North America (overseas unlikely to help much with this one) on a $50 million budget.
With these type of debuts, it seems unlikely that either film will be able to break even on their respective production spends, and they’ll likely lose tens of millions of dollars after ancillaries and marketing costs.
I hope Terminator Dark Fate bombs, cuz it deserves to for pulling an Alien 3.
Can you explain?
I think it would spoil the movie but let me try to explain: In Aliens, we spent most of the movie emotionally investing in a character and their survival, and in Alien 3 it was all thrown to garbage within the first few minutes. I think this is what Jo means, I have seen the same Alien 3 comparison in a lot of outlets this weekend and agree with it.
Terminator franchise: Mankind’s future
Theatrical releases: Skynet
Netflix: John Connor
Welp, looks like Motherless Brooklyn is DOA with a $3 million opening on a $26 million budget. I guess that’s getting a write-up soon.
Their entire marketing was around how incredible an actor Ed Norton is. Yeah, good choice considering EN’s bankability and reputation as one of the most difficult actors currently working.
Add Terminator: Dark Fate and Arctic Dogs to this list. It’s eyeing a debut smaller than Genisys. While Genisys was saved by the international market, it looks as if Dark Fate can’t be saved by the international market. With a budget of about $185-$196 million (Genisys had a $155 million budget) and a B+ Cinemascore, it will be just about impossible for Dark Fate to break even. Arctic Dogs fared even worse, earning $700k on Friday on a 50 million dollar budget. It also has a B- Cinemascore, which means that it will also be impossible for it to break even.
I think Dark Fate’s marketing was very misguided . There was very little on characters, with two scenes (Sarah Connor bazookaing a racing Rev9 and Rev9 massacreing factory workers) playing ad nauseam, almost nothing on story and not really caring about the long legacy. The impression the marketing gave was that of just a generic action movie unlikely to gain new audiences or exciting long term fans to rush to the theater,
They also needlessly pissed off their fan base with shoe horned in ICE is the bad guy/respect all Wamyns bull not to mention pissing off even more people by pulling a full on alien 3
Sorry for my ignorance but how did it pull an Alien 3?
There’s not much else in the film though. What they showed in the trailers is what you get.
i could remember an simpler tim when i used to pay £10.50 for an great day
out at the corner cinema and watched good films without being talked down
at by saying if you don’t go and see our movie then you are an sexiest pig
and i seen goldeneye about 4 times and it was great it did gender polotics well
and wasn’t forced down peoples mouths unlike today where every franchise both
gaming and films where it is forced there is an side mission in borderlands 3 where
the female antagonist bribes you to commit suicide for cheap entertainment and
propaganda and if you do it the reward is an gun in which you get ridiculed by the antagonist
each time you fire it with insults like gun-slut for sale and the other quest to find parts to help
claptrap to build an girlfriend in order for her to call him an garbage male robot and people are tired of forced gender polotics and thats why they often fail and continue to fail until they learn.
Oh shut up
So…by your logic, “Captain Marvel” was a flop. Maybe it was…to conservative male millennials. But to the rest of the world, it sold over a billion dollars’ worth of tickets. Think about it next time before you type up your biased observations about “gender politics.”
I believe you can automatically add Arctic Dogs to the list because it has a budget of 50 million and is having an ABYSMAL 2.7 million opening. I guess Entertainment Studios Will stay a one hit wonder after all.
Haha, toldja! Forbes: Terminator: Dark Fate Nabs Grim 2.4 million on Thursday.
A sub-$100 million domestic and under $300 million worldwide looks likely at this point.
Hopefully this will at least be a microscopic lesson for Hollywood to stop trying to resurrect rotten corpses of ideas and come up with originality every now and then.
Note to Bomb: Please feel free to put Dark Fate on the Movies to be Added list on top of the page, trust me on this one…
$28 Million weekend estimate w/ it flopping in most of its foreign markets already (the only major market it has yet to release in is Japan).
It’s a bomb.
Bomb, thanks.
Terminator: Dark Fate projection has been downgraded to $28M Opening (via Deadline) and with weak international earnings past week looks like major Flop already…..???
In November, Arctic Dogs will be bomb at box office.
I think Midway and 21 Bridges might bomb as well.
I just checked in The Numbers website, Maleficent 2 is already 293 million USD. And in Box Office Mojo was only 95 million. The glory days of Box Office Mojo seems gone now with new sh-t User Interface of BOM.
Due to Joker still persistent, Maleficent 2 need gross at least 425 million to break even. With 185 million USD budget.
Joker still back #1 in this week, and Maleficent 2 is only one and a half week released.
I think Maleficent will do pretty well, and at least break even.
Actually, according to actuals “Maleficent: Mistress of Evil” has slightly edged “Joker” at the domestic box office this weekend,
I’ll agree with you on BOM. What the hell….
Can you add The Current War to the pending list?
Supposedly, the amount that 101 Studios put into it was low enough that it didn’t need to do particularly well for them to do okay on it. Similar to Kidnap a while back where it’ll never make its budget back, but it winds up not hurting anyone’s checkbook in particular.
Kidnap made its budget back though.
Not enough to be profitable for the original financiers though. Made $31 million total off of a $21 million budget.
$34 million, my bad.
The reported budget was at least under $30 million. Just because it would likely be a wash for 101 doesn’t mean it’s not ineligible yet for a write-up. It could possibly do poorly overseas.
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-last-harvey-weinstein-movie-the-current-war-2019-10
Lucy in the Sky?
I was thinking the same thing.
Couldn’t have been cheap unless the cast decided to take a major pay cut?
According to Deadline,between the budget and P&A,maybe $40 million was spent in the movie.
Oh wow. That surprises me a little but then again not.. I can see why you’d ask that now
Let’s all share a brief moment of silence in memory of Box Office Mojo, a website gutted of all useful box office content. It may have not always been the most easy to navigate or perfectly accurate website, but it was one of the best commercially available ones we had in regards to comprehensive box office.
What the hell was Amazon thinking? Who is going to pay for imdb membership to access box office data? I hope the-numbers.com has a massive increase in usership.
Amazon is full of it. The only reason to go to IMDB was the message boards and they got rid of that, I am sure the traffic to IMDB is mediocre at best and now they want to charge for something that no one will pay for.
I was a member of imdb for 13 years, and when they got rid of the message boards there wasn’t any reason to go there anymore.
I still use IMDb to track upcoming movies and rate movies, and see the list of casting. Box office data will be leaked by others so there’s no need for me to pay for access.
They did lol
I am very disappointed that imdb.com took over. Such a shame.
IMDB had been in control for a while, but the most they’d ever hurt BOM was a weird weekend about 5 years ago where it redirected to IMDB’s pitiful box office results page.
Amen. RIP
Terminator Dark Fate – Landing with Mixed reviews next week
Budget – $160 + PP
Break Even – $350
I can see the movie pulling it off to a safe zone, since Terminator has better following Internationally, Predicting the movie to do okayish in north america and better international.
How about The Bomb extending a warm welcome to the newest disaster brought to you by the Disney family, Maleficient 2?
A worldwide cumulative under $300 million at this point looks like a likely scenario, especially with poor results from China, which would mean a loss of about $50-100 million.
Some food for thought:
In 1959, Disney released Sleeping Beauty for a budget of $6 million, which is about $53 million in today’s dollars. It grossed about $52 million, which is about $460 million today. Maleficient 2 cost $185 million and will need about $400 million just to break even.
I feel like it is more than that with worldwide advertising costs which may mean an additional $100-200 million.
I saw the future,
and it told me:
“… which would barely cover the worldwide advertising costs but leave the budget completely untouched.”
How on earth did Maleficent 2 spend $200 million on advertising the sequel. Even my mother, a massive fan of the original film, didn’t hear about the film until we saw a trailer for it before watching “Joker”, a few days before release.
Not that Disney should be crying too much if this loses money.
183 million budget, and Joker still #1 in this weeks. and currently 293 million box office, Maleficent 2 needs to gross more 150 million in this and next weeks to avoid bombs.
Even Aladdin slow incomes in first and second week, Aladdin manage to avoid box office bomb. Can Maleficent 2 manage that?
Does anyone know whether Gemini Man was greenlit before or after Ang Lee’s last technologically superior disaster Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk? What’s up with studios giving Ang Lee these unlimited budgets for movies that use technology nobody knows, cares about, or asked for?
I am boycotting anything will smith is in since he gave $122,500 to the cult.
He is not a Scientologist and has denied rumors claiming him as a member of the Church of Scientology, but he has spoken favorably about it: “I just think a lot of the ideas in Scientology are brilliant and revolutionary and non-religious.”
Smith gave $1.3 million to charities in 2007, of which $122,500 went to three Scientology organizations
This in my opinion is just as bad as being a member.
Trust me- boycott it for any reason you want and you’ve already won
Have you ever checking the 2020 films released? Can you predicted it which will be hit?
No
“Gemini Man” get on the board – What a disaster it is turning out to be. $275 mn to break even and the movie has just covered 30% after one week.
Its time for Will Smith to rebrand himself, needs a fresh start.
and for “Paramount” it is going to be the worst year in the past decade.
Yup. Also, another turd for Bruckheimer, and Ang Lee might never be allowed to play in the big kids’ sandox again.
Can you add Jexi on the list it’s had the worst opening?
Jexi cost under $12 million including marketing supposedly. Its losses are small enough that it’s not worth putting
No doubt Gemini Man will be in the list. The word of mouth will be virtually non existent for this one.
Audiences won’t go see a generic cgi filled video game with terrible writing.
Are you kidding? It was fantastic!!!!
Can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not..
I predict this will be the first year where a husband and wife who hate each other’s guts will both appear on Bomb Report with two totally different films: Brangelina with Ad Astra and Maleficient 2, respectively.
I think Gemini Man will be bomb-worthy almost certainly, but Bomb is taking their time just to be on the safe side. I recall hearing about this movie I believe in late nineties first with Harrison Ford then with Mel Gibson in the elderly role (with the younger role cast due to cgi limitations). Too bad Ang Lee’s creative juices have dried up, I’d love to see more of his successful action style a la Crouching Tiger.
Joker has done very well, I’m a bit surprised.
I just heard that the budget for “Gemini Man” was reported to be around $138 million. If it fails to cross $300 million WW (which may have a chance of happening given its weak reception so far), the film may end up contending for this site despite having Ang Lee and Will Smith as attached names.
Ang Lee is always hit or miss, so it’s not surprising he’d have another failure critically and commercially
Last Blood doesn’t seem to be doing great internationally, so it may need an entry here
Along with Ad Astra, I expect Lucy in the Sky to eventually find its way onto the Report after a dismal sub-$1,500 per theater average in narrow release on opening weekend and just plain bad reviews.
Along with Ad Astra and last year’s First Man, now does not seem to be a good time to be releasing moody space flicks.
Abominable may have a future on the report. Which is really too bad considering it’s a very good film and is non-Disney to boot.
Wow, I legitimately thought “Goldfinch” was going to be Oscar bait.. before I saw it..
Who would have thought Joker was the award baitiest movie of them all?
Can you add The Sun Is Also a Star on the list?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/05/19/box-office-dogs-journey-sun-is-also-a-star-john-wick-3-yara-shahidi-charles-melton-henry-lau/
Been keeping most movies under $20M off the site.
just add The Sun Is Also a Star on the list okay.
You’re a douche
No. Just go sit on a bowling pin okay?
I’M OK BOOTS
We Did it! We Did it!
Add Ad Astra to the pending list. It has a budget of over 100 million and earned about 45 million worldwide on opening weekend. It’s only hope is that it could have long legs at the box office, but a) it would have to have really long legs at the box office, and b) it has a b- cinemascore, so it is more likely to have short legs. Lastly, add in Joker in the third weekend with it’s predicted $180 million debut shutting out most of the competition, and Ad Astra is likely going to be a disaster.
Long legs it doesn’t have. Looks like it needs to be re-evaluated since its domestic total will probably peter out around $50 mil and the foreign take seems like it’ll stall out around the $70 mil mark. Well short of breaking even its budget, never mind how much was spent on P&A.
I’m so sad that the Goldfinch flopped 🙁
I was actually excited to see and was disappointed to see how it did in the box office
I have yet to see that one. I saw Ad Astra, and Rambo, and Ad Astra was very slow moving and there were about 12 people in the theater. Now Rambo had a pretty good sized audience. I do think Rambo will be a box office hit.
Prediction of Terminator’s B.O. Dark Fate:
95 million domestic
250 million international
About 350 total, definitely in the red when P&A costs are taken into consideration. Possibly last big budget pic of Annapurna as well as Arnold. No international interest whatsoever.
Actually, it’s Larry Ellison’s company, Skydance Media, that producing it!!! And, he have more successes than Megan’s!!!
Can’t wait for November to welcome the Terminator franchise for the first time to Da Bomb. No-money-ll- be-back…
All new releases of this weekend, Downton Abbey, Rambo: Last Blood and Ad astra will at least make back their money.
The first one is in the green after this weekend as the budget is only $13M and in the US it will open above $30M.
Rambo has a budget of $50M and will bring in at least that amount in the US before Joker opens. Now internationally it will make more without being dented by Joker because somehow the American craziness about Joker (and Batman or Superman) is not contagious for the rest of the world. I predict a worldwide cume of $140M.
Then Ad Astra with a budget of $80M. Even though it will be tougher to make back it’s money it is a movie that will have longer legs than Rambo: Last Blood and it has Brad Pitt. Joker will influence this one less in the US. I predict $70M in the US and $90M in the rest of the world. So barely breaking even but not a complete bomb.
In other news the following movies are all safe: Hustlers, Angel has Fallen, The Angry Birds Movie 2 and Dora and the Lost City of Gold.
It’s nice to see all these studios make money.
Warner Bros is sure as hell having a rough year.
It 2 pikachu and shazam all did well for them Godzilla did well enough for toho and legendary
Fox and stx are doing way worse
Hustlers saved STX’s year though
Yeah they all made profits, but apart from It 2, the rest performed below expectations.
What happened to Dora And The Lost City Of Gold?
Latin America happened and is still happening.
It will gross worldwide more than twice the budget thus NOT making it a bomb, like I predicted on August 25, 2019 at 11:49 am
I can’t believe it broke even!
As of today, “The Goldfinch” is currently estimated to have one of the worst openings for a film playing in 2,500+ cinemas, not to mention a very bad opening for Warner Bros. Its opening weekend is set to be only $2.64 million, which against a budget of $40 million would mark it as a flop regardless of how leggy it turns out to be (which will likely be not-so leggy in the end).
Any rumblings about AT&T looking to sell Warner Bros.? They can’t do anything right lately, maybe a different owner can turn them around.
Conglomerates ruin studios. F-ck AT&T. And my cell service from them sucks too. Figure I’d get that off my chest.
JUST OK IS NOT OK
Hey without these conglomerates you wouldn’t have this fantastic website. bombs away!!!
Ha! Thank you.
I think Ad Astra has a chance to wind up on the Report. Almost $90 million (reported) budget, muted marketing push, terrible title, new property, been-there-done-that feeling from the trailers (Passengers, Interstellar)…hope I’m proven wrong because *I* want to see it and *I* want it to be good, but no one I know has even heard of it, let alone wants to see it.
Warner Bros.’ ambitious $40M Oscar-bait movie,”The Goldfinch” (based on the best seller), is doomed to be a box office clunker, between poor reviews (including boos at the Toronto Film Festival – ouch!) and a mind-numbing 3 hour running time…This is yet another pricey turkey for a struggling studio that didn’t need another bomb, and should be on the pending list soon!
This movie is now on track to make roughly $2 million opening weekend off a budget of about $45 million!
Budget is $ 49 million according to Deadline.
Who’s says WB is struggling? Just because WB has a flop doesn’t mean the studio is struggling.
Yes joker going to open to 80 to 90 million
Warner Bros. has had a host of 2019 films that either underachieved or flopped outright- “Godzilla: King of the Monsters”, “The Kitchen”, “Blinded by the Light” “Shaft” and “The Goldfinch”. Only “It: Chapter Two” and “Joker” will save the studio’s year…Oh, and by the way, the brainiacs at WB blame the marketplace for the utter failure of “The Goldfinch” (never mind its 25% rating on RT and poor critical reception!)
Playmobil: The Movie should be added to the pending list. I know it hasn’t been released in some key markets yet, including the U.S., but the foreign numbers so far do not look good.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=playmobil.htm
Looks like that is toast. I’m going to keep it off just so I don’t confuse people since it has not been released stateside yet — but I’ll add it closer to it’s opening. And thank you, I had not been following that one at all and didn’t know it tanked in most of Europe.
Alita isn’t even on the pending list? Was it somehow saved by its overseas performance?
Yes… it made over $400m WW, on a budget of $170m
How much does it need to break-even. I heard it spent massively on marketing
Fox said 350m to break even
I think Abominable, A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon, Little Women, Cats, and 1917 made gonna bomb at box office this year
Reason:
Abominable (Dreamworks):
Made not gonna gets marketing and to crushed by Rambo: Last Blood
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon (Lionsgate):
Made gonna failed just like Early Man
Little Women (Sony):
Is about to gets destroyed by Spies in Disguise
Cats & 1917 (Universal):
Amblin Cats made gonna be flop by Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalkers and 1917 made gonna be bomb like Dark Phoneix and Mortal Engines.
I haven’t seen Lionsgate promote Shaun the Sheep ever since that teaser in front of Early Man. Seeing how Early Man and the first Shaun the Sheep movie bombed in the US, how do we know the theatrical release here wasn’t pulled?
Your reasoning for Abominable is confusing. Abominable and Last Blood are two different markets.
Very good points. Convincing arguments. I’m floored!
Not
What is your prediction for the box office performance of this years September Gang
The Goldfinch
Hustlers
Ad Astra
Rambo Last Blood
Downton Abbey
Abominable
(Everyone knows that It will be a hit)
Add The Angry Birds Movie 2
It made $93 mill globally vs. a $65 mill budget, though I have no idea how much of that Sony gets to take home or spent on marketing.
And who knows how much they made off the first movie, which was more of an indie production they provided services for.
Angry birds 2 also still has some markets to come out in over September to November
My son comes here posting a lot of nonsense. Sorry guys I tried to keep him off the computer but he loves his Gateway so much. The basement smells so bad now :((((((
I WILL SNAP ALL OF THE COMMENTS
Is anyone predicting any 2020 flops
Artemis Fowl
Mulan remake
That’s the spirit, even tell Disney to remake Little Mermaid again, but this time, paint Ariel white, not have her cast by a 19 year old black lesbian.
If Dora and The Lost City of Gold could hold on in box office like “Disney Pete Dragon” did it should make some solid money and not be a bomb.
It is doing a lot better than I expected. I was totally wrong.
Listen, I am not going to have everybody renew interest in Dora the Explorer!
It seems a lot of people who respond here WANT a movie to be a boxoffice bomb.
That’s ok, but what is not ok is that they don’t seem to have the slightest idea when a movie is a bomb.
They neglect the following rules:
1. The budget is almost never revealed by a studio, so look for the budget on different sites.
If it is impossible to determine what the budget was, it is impossible to determine if a movie is a bomb.
Example? The Art of Racing in the Rain has an estimated budget from 18 million USD, but some sites say it’s 50 million USD. If even the pro’s cannot make an estimate than we also cannot and cannot say it’s a bomb.
2. A studio invests in the budget and the ads and gets back between 50 and 60 percent from the theaters.
So rule of thumb is in general 2 times the budget is break-even, 2,5 times the budget to be more sure.
Example? Godzilla: King of the Monsters budget 170 million USD, revenue 383 million USD. If you use the 2 multiplier it’s a succes, if you use the 2,5 multiplier it’s not. So? We don’t know and therefor it is not listed as a bomb.
3. The international market makes or breaks a movie. Some big movies are released earlier internationally than in the US. South Korea, Australia and New Zealand are usually up ahead and even Russia (for piracy reasons) have the movies in the theaters even before the US. Unless a movie is rolled out in the whole world it’s impossible to make bomb-statements as I have seen by a lot of people here, because countries like China can turn a ‘sure’ bomb into a huge succes.
Example? Dora and the Lost City of Gold with a 49 million USD budget is pending here after a lot of people here were nagging about it, it’s a bomb, it’s a bomb, it’s a bomb. The revenue at this moment is 60 million USD worldwide, BUT, it hasn’t been released in a major amount of markets. Specifically native Spanish speaking countries ( Mexico, Colombia and Spain for example ) where the character is enormously popular. But also it still needs to be released in Portugal, Poland, Australia, Italy, Germany, Japan and since there is a Hong Kong release it will probably also be released in China. So, it is not possible to state that’s it’s a bomb and also pending a movie like that is ONLY realistic if a small amount of release dates is left. Not when a movie has been released in only half of the markets.
I think you are right for analyzing this year movies. But there is a thing I want to talk ;
1. First, not all sites which the movies have real budget. Some Netizens can fake a real budget by editing, especially in Wikipedia. Inaccurate budget can cause anger for netizens, and claiming that website is fake. Second, let’s look “Godzilla : King of The Monsters” budget. Some website says 170 million, others 200 million, others again 170-200 million. According to myself. I think the real budget still unknown, but at least between 170-200 million USD.
2. Okay. Look back at “The Mummy”,”The Great Wall”,”Rise of the Guardians” and “Justice League” films. Even their box office are doubled their budget, still a box office bombs regardless help from other countries. The reason is underperformed, low rating, highly not recommended, too much negative comments, bad CGI, bad Visuals, lack of audience interest, Plotholes, etc. So, DOUBLING A BUDGET IN BOX OFFICE DOES NOT MEAN SUCCESS regardless bombed or not. Many are underperformed, but STILL NOT BOMBED too much or even not bombed.
3. True. Look “HTTYDTHW” and “Jurassic World” has early released before official release in USA. And, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood” have released in USA, but lately released in most world overseas. Example : In Indonesia, almost all movies which US released in Friday, Indonesia mostly released that films in Wednesday. Not all country release a film with same date and time in USA, because of different time zone. It depends on country of that movies want released or not.
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Amongst of August and September movies are completely underperformed. This is because of no blockbusters in these 2 periodes, similar to January and February case. You can look many meltdown of mass sequel regardless of hit or bombed, such as : The Secret Life Of Pets 2, Angry Birds 2, Godzilla : King of The Monsters. And many underperformed films such as Dora ATLCOG, Hellboy, Uglydolls, Wonder Park, Dark phoenix, Godzilla : King of The Monsters. I’m doubtful can break the sequel curse, which underperformed in sequels after prequels
This site is about boxoffice bombs, if you want to talk about underperform go to underperformoffice.com
That website dosen’t exsist i looked it up
headache
Huh?
I’d like if you added ‘Blinded by the Light,’ ‘The Art of Racing in the Rain,’ and the ‘Angry Birds Movie 2’ to the pending list. They are definite flops.
Unless Angel Has Fallen becomes a surprise hit overseas, I fully expect it to show up on this list. It cost $80 million to make, making it the most expensive in the Fallen series, but it is also expected to have the lowest opening in the series.
Can you add Stuber, A Dog’s Journey and Blinded by the Light on the list?
A dog’s journey has Made 66 million on a 18 million budget.
So no!
Stuber was cheap
Not cheap enough to prevent that Fox writeoff.
According to Deadline, Where’d You Go, Bernadette has a budget north of $20 million and is currently flopping. Can you add it to the pending list?
added to pending.
You probably should add Angry Birds 2 too
Not exactly The Angry Birds Movie 2 is underperforming just like Rocketman and Yesterday.
Can IT : Chapter Two become another most successful horror movie in this year?
YES MY MOVIE WILL FLOAT MASSIVELY IN THIS YEAR
August 2019 review :
Dora and the Lost City Of Gold seems underperformed. Even Angry Birds 2 too. Despite their both gain higher rating in Rotten Tomatoes, these boths are underperformed. After one week release, Dora ATLCOG only got 44 million USD, despite released in nationwide. Angry Birds 2 got just 35 million USD. Hobbs & Shaw still under performed too despite break even. This is the factor of The Lion King still persistent, and they manage #1 – #3 in first months.
Your thoughts?
If a movie manages to break even, it doesn’t go on this site. This list is for “bombs”–movies that actually lose money. So Hobbs and Shaw wouldn’t be listed here.
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I think The Angry Birds Movie 2 is a definite contender for the list, it has a budget of 65 million and is only expected to make 8.7 million on it’s OW. I smell a turkey here (no pun intended).
The Art of Racing in the Rain, Dora and the Lost City of Gold, and Where’d You Go Bernadette all deserve pending spots on this list.
I agree
Me too
I think you should add ‘The Art of Racing in the Rain,’ ‘Dora the Explorer,’ ‘Angry Birds Movie 2,’ and ‘Brian Banks’ to the pending list. They are all underperforming and aren’t making much money. ‘Angry Birds’ only made 4 million domestically against a 65 million budget. With even more releases coming, I don’t think they will make much more money. However, I don’t think you really need to add ‘Brian Banks’ if you don’t want to, because it has a small budget.
I think these movies underperformed because they were too many released at once. Nobody wants to see all these movies at the same time, even if it is summer.
Nonsense, The Angry Birds Movie 2 didn’t bomb box office, but it going to hit 20 million.
Now only 12-8 million $ opening
Sad news. Angry Birds 2 earned 16 million over six days-10 million over the weekend, and placed #4 over Good Boys which, in my book, may be the Biggest Upset in years!!!
You were wrong about Once upon a Time … in Hollywood ( 180 million worldwide now and it just started in the rest of the world ).
You were wrong about Godzilla.
You were wrong about Yesterday ( 128+ Million worldwide against a 26 million budget is a HUUUGE succes ).
And last but not least…. man were you wrong about Spiderman 🙂
If you think last weekend is too much (Here to you. Art of Racing in the Rain) this weekend is much more of the same! Angry Birds 2 getting a head start yesterday, Good Boys is nothing to write about-R rating and all,-unless they pull a Sausage Party on them, 47 Meters Down 2 and Blinded By the Light is up in the air.
Dylan W, what movies do you think will bomb in 2020 from month to month?
Can we add Dora and the Lost City of Gold it’s really bomb from Box Office?
As what you heard earlier, the budget of the film is only $49 million. Considering how it’s projected to make as much as “Wonder Park” domestically, “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” won’t bomb unless it completely collapses overseas, especially when its budget is only half the amount it cost to produce the aforementioned bomb.
Basically, even with a projected domestic finish of $50-60 million and a possible 50/50 domestic/overseas split, “Dora” will still make over double its budget (which may likely allow it to break even after ancillaries and marketing costs are factored in).
I’m pretty sure that “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” may just escape from being a bomb. Considering Dora, as a cartoon series being well known will have more audiences in asian market driving to theaters.
No way, I will not have Dora the Explorer return to TV screens for new seasons.
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Your thoughts?
LOL
It seems Hobbs & Shaw are still underperformed within 332 million USD after 11 day release due to The Lion King interest still high and their incomes continuously. But I think Hobbs & Shaw might break even at least 500 million USD incomes
Hobbs and Shaw has yet to open in China, and the Fast and Furious series is HUGE over there. I see no reason it can’t make at least $200 million there alone.
Good news Dora and the Lost City of Gold got a box-office bomb and destroyed by Scary Stories and Hobbs and Shaw.
Nonsense, 17M opening weekend wil end in 55M in the US.
Rest of the world 120M maybe even more depending on Latin countries means it will have a global tally of 175M against a 49M budget.
Get you numbers right!
Let we see until 2nd or 3rd week how much Dora and the Lost City Of Gold gains. If they did not reaching 100 million USD in that case, it means flop
It actually grossed 115 million. (Maybe Santiago of the Seas will spiritually succeed Dora the Explorer!)
The Kitchen cost $37 million and will struggle to hit $15 million as a total. Embarrassing for Melissa Mccarthy
Based on a soon-to-be-out-of-print Vertigo graphic novel (Since DC is shutting down that imprint), 20% on Rotten Tomatoes, “All Sesame and No Street” (If you placed The Happytime Murders into this), no wonder it’s flopped!!!
Small openings for all of the August 9 movies. Too many of them came out at the same time.
Is anyone predicting sny August flops?
I meant any
I can smell The Kitchen-All Seasme No Street!!!
Looks like it’s flat-out bombing with an opening day of $1.8M.
Some people think Rotten Tomatoes is a fake rate, and claims paid by Marvel fans. Some people think Audience Score is truth, Rotten Tomatoes are a fake rate. Even biggest movies like Captain marvel, has low rate in Audience Score
Ok?
Not accurate.
Reviews for Dora are out, and they are actually better than expected… The RT Score is 78% based on 9 reviews, with an average rating of 6.55/10
This is bad, it’s going to brainwash more people and cancel PAW Patrol! Hurry, tell Paramount Players to pull the public advertising!
Has anyone found a budget for Dora ATLCOG?
I’m predicting around 50 or 60 million
According to Deadline, the production budget for “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” was reported to be about $49 million.
Co-financed with Media Rights Capital and Walden Media, if that’s worth pointing out.
I think you should at least add ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ to the pending list. The budget was 90 million and it only has made 55 million so far. It isn’t going to make much more once ‘Hobbs and Shaw’ hits theatres.
Despite with higher rates in Rotten Tomatoes, maybe this films seems underperformed, although in CinemaScore only got B, and PostTrak just 59%. Metacritic 85%, comparing to The Lion King, they got A in CinemaScore, even in Rotten Tomatoes are lower (53%)
Hobbs & Shaw is going for a totally different audience than Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Also, the reason why it has only made $55 million is because it hasn’t been released outside of the U.S. yet. I believe that other countries will start receiving it in a couple of weeks.
Week 3 and it made back it’s production budget domestically.
Nonsense!
It will make 120M in the US and I predict 150M in the rest of the world for a total cume of 270M.
Attention! I just talk about movies. But these one, Tracey Mills trying to insult me which they are using my name. Please be careful guys!
Sorry pal, you have more than one person picking on you.
This November, watch the enjoyable sight of Arctic Dogs and Playmobil being completely destroyed by Frozen II.
Please remind someone are using my username as post. I have noted even I don’t typing, someone typing using my username think I am comment it. Please be careful
“Why are you typing random words and phrases that have nothing to do with the topic at hand? This website exists to discuss box office bombs, and nothing you type contributes to the discussion in a meaningful way.
What you are doing is more or less trolling… you are trying to disrupt the flow of conversation with off topic comments. If you want to type nonsensical gibberish, do it in a website dedicated to nonsensical gibberish. If such a website doesn’t exist, create one. You may think that what you are doing is adorable, but in reality, it is really annoying
Basically, please don’t type random sh-t on a website not dedicated to random sh-t”. Look in Tracey Mills reply it’s NOT my comment!
This is not mine, this is someone other people using my name to post this sh-t. Thank you!
If this New York Times article is to be believed, “Stuber” could be on the pending list. Its reported budget is $25 million.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/movies/stuber-spider-man-far-from-home-box-office.html
“Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”, with 90 million USD budget, and now currently 40 million USD, with Rotten Tomatoes 84%. Can they break even? Need to get at least 200 million USD to break even. CinemaScore “B”, Metacritic 85%
In August and September does not have so much blockbusters. Only Hobbs & Shaw, IT Chapter Two and The Lion King are likely to hit. I’m doubtful several animated films (Angry Birds 2, Abominable, and Playmobil : The Movie), with good soundtrack such as Uglydolls and Wonder Park. Even Dora and the Lost City Of Gold is doubtful for hit. I think in the next week is a big battle for Hobbs & Shaw vs The Lion King. The Lion King is now close to 1 billion USD.
If Dora and the Lost City of Gold does successful, it puts Dora the Explorer back on TV, and that’s not good.
All delayed films in 2019 and 2020 that pushed to 2020 and 2021 and/or force move to 2019:
Fantastic Beast 3
Bond 25
The Kingsman
Sonic the Hedgehog
Artemis Fowl
Avatar 2
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil
Your thoughts?
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“Anna” has just tanked in France, the home country of Luc Besson. It’s only made the equivalent of $3 million in the 2 weeks it has been released there, which will only add to the money loss that EuropaCorp will have to take on it in the end (its performance elsewhere, including North America, has also been very dismal so far).
The Lion King got 713 million USD just in one weeks. Spider Man : Far From Home reach 1 billion USD. Aladdin are close to 1 billion USD. Toy Story 4 are 868 million USD. Look how Disney and MCU films in this year are dominating, except Dumbo. Only 1 DCEU. Despite break even, they did not gross too much. According to critics, these 4 films are better than Avengers : Endgame, perhaps. I’m sure this year is the glory days of Disney and Marvel.
Can Frozen 2, Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil, Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker, Jumanji : The Next Level, IT Chapter Two, Terminator : Dark Fate, Joker are break even?
Your thoughts?
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I fear Dora and the Lost City of Gold will do successful and gross the same as either of the two Spongebob movies. So, you have got to warn everybody, not to watch the movie.
Although in this 3 months doesn’t have too much blockbusters, I think Hobbs & Shaw, IT Chapter Two, The Lion King are probably leading the box office as well. You can look in January and February movies in this year. Doesn’t have too much blockbusters. Only Alita : Battle Angel and HTTYDTHW are dominating. October seems doesn’t look too much. Joker, Terminator : Dark Fate and Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil are likely to be hit due to October hasn’t many blockbusters, and With great schedule while Frozen 2 release are 27th November 2019 worldwide.
Your thoughts?
It seems this year is the glorious year for Disney Live Action (except Dumbo), Pixar, and Marvel Cinematic Universe. Probably The Lion King, Aladdin, Toy Story 4, Spider Man : Far From Home are likely to going 1 billion USD.
Frozen 2 probably make it. Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil my prediction are break even, i think 850 million USD. Hobbs & Shaw probably, due to rise of Fast & Furious franchise incomes since Furious 7.
Currently The Lion King are 531 million USD. Aladdin close to 1 billion USD, and even Spider Man : Far From Home too.
Your thoughts?
Hobbs and Shaw is not a Disney movie.
Avengers Endgame is the number one highest grossing movie ever! It beat Avatar!
The biggest bomb of 2019, one of the worst musical adaptations ever, and a major Razzie contender, perhaps winning almost all of them, will be “Cats”, judging by the savage criticism that greeted its first trailer…It will certainly land on this list, given that “The Rise of Skywalker” is its competition! (Shades of Warner Bros. releasing the Eastwood dud “Pink Cadillac” the same week as “Last Crusade”!) Also, the remake of “West Side Story” may land on the Bomb Report list, given that it’s being released the same week! Why Spielberg decided to remake the 1961 classic is beyond me…
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What do you think of the new Dora the Explorer film’s chances? My children loved her when they were small, but the youngest is a tween. She told me that she doesn’t want to see it.
That movie looks too cringey. I saw a trailer for it attached to Toy Story 4 when I saw it with my best friend and his father last week.
Do not watch Dora and the Lost City of Gold, it will start Dora all over again, and cancel PAW Patrol.
“Stuber” had a production budget of $16 million according to Wikipedia and an advertising spend of at least $5 million so to just break even it needs $21 million. It opened wide on July 12 and so far it has grossed $8 million in the USA and $3 million elsewhere. Things don’t look good for it right now, you may went to put it on the Pending list with Anna.
However, I heard that in most cases, BombReport would only include box-office bombs that cost at least $20 million to produce. Therefore, even if “Stuber” might end up as a flop in the very end, I won’t be surprised if it didn’t end up contending for this site either (much like what happened to other low-budgeted flops such as “Miss Bala” and “Poms”).
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Although The Lion King in Rotten Tomatoes are only 59%, within 250 million budget. Can they break even? Or ended like Dumbo?
It’s the Monday before Opening Night, and, it’s now stands at 62%.
Meanwhile, it’s seems that one of those Weinstein leftovers, called The Current War, can’t settled down on a release date! It’s supported to be out November 2007, then sometime in 3008, then in August, then in October, now it’s being dated for this weekend!!! Let’s mourned those Weinstein while we can!!! (I hope!!!)
Spider Man : Far From Home soars up to 847 million USD. Toy Story 4 771 million USD. Aladdin 960 million USD. Endgame close to 2,780 billion USD. Can The Lion King become succeed like Aladdin? Aladdin are close to 1 billion USD, and Endgame close to break Titanic record. Spider Man : Far From Home are the first Spiderman Franchise to manage #1 in all Spiderman movies.
With The Lion King budget is 250 million USD, more than Aladdin (183 million USD), and Far From Home, even Far From Home CGI was amazing within only 160 million USD. And even higher than Dead Man Tell No Tales in 2017 (230 million USD).
Here’s condition of incomes in last week.
Endgame close to break Avatar Record.
Have you ever heard of S&P Global Market Intelligence? They have posted a couple of box office comps (https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/godzillas-monstrous-shadow-to-loom-large-over-aladdins-lamp-at-box-office for example). How trustworthy should these numbers be?
It’s giving an ERROR page whenever I try to click on “Serenity” just FYI.
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Due to blockbusterless in July – September, this page is seems likely quiet. WIth only The Lion King, Hobbs & Shaw & IT : Chapter Two are the blockbusters only hopes. Just remind NONE OF THIS YEAR FILMS ARE HOLD #1 OVER 3 WEEKS. All are withstand only 3 weeks
Spider Man : Far From Home soars up to 603 million USD. It seems this is highest income of Spider Man franchise.
Just reminder, none of all movies in this year are still hold #1 in over 4 weeks. All are only 3 weeks #1.
Can The Lion King break Spider Man : Far From Home record? Or just underperform like Dumbo? With the help of Beyonce – Spirit new songs from The Lion King
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There are many animated are yet to be released this year. There are :
Abominable, The Addams Family, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun The Sheep : Farmaggeddon, Frozen 2, HTTYDTHW, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, The Secret Life Of Pets 2, Spies In Disguise, Toy Story 4, UglyDolls, Wonder Park.
But ONLY 2 of these list are hit in this year. (HTTYDTHW, Toy Story 4)
Most of thems are flops or mid-table films. (UglyDolls, Wonder Park, Missing Link, The Lego Movie 2, The Secret Life Of Pets 2)
Comparing in 2018, there are 4 animated films are above 500 million USD.
Your thoughts?
Updated 8th July box office based on Indonesia Standard Time :
Spider Man : Far From Home : 580 million USD
Toy Story 4 : 649 million USD
Aladdin : 921 million USD
Men In Black : International : 244 million USD
Secret Life Of Pets 2 : 262 million USD
John Wick 3 : 311 million USD
Meanwhile, Dark Phoenix stuck in 245 million USD due to low rate and negative comments, and Godzilla : King Of The Monsters are stuck in 378 million USD
Your thoughts? Only 2 animated films are hit in this year.
According to the article Triple Frontier was a flop for Netflix. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/triple-frontier-flop-netflix-cuts-back-spending-1202155925/
Would it count for a page?
Spider Man : Far From Home debut is 39 million. And Toy Story 4 still #2. Only two animated films are Hit, otherwise flops or underperformed. Endgame still rocks in #8. Your thoughts?
Let’s look at the rest of the year:
Angry Birds 2: I think kids are playing Fortnite on their phones more than Angry Birds.
Playmobil: Even Lego 2 didn’t do that well, so what gives this the upperhand?
Abominable: Maybe in China it will be a hit, but doubtful in States despite not much competition.
The Addams Family: Going against Maleficent 2, they’ll destroy each other.
Artic Dogs: Yeah, looking at the trailer, all I can think of is Norm of the North.
Frozen 2: Probably won’t make as much as the first, but it’ll still do very well.
Shaun the Sheep 2: Sorry Aardman, but stop-motion is dead
Spies in Disguise: Yeah, with Jumanji 2 and Star Wars XI, I doubt it will have a chance.
Yeah, besides Frozen 2, that’s about it for animated hits in 2019.
The ONLY animated films coming out during the rest of the year that I’m expecting to do AT LEAST decent business are “Spies in Disguise” and ESPECIALLY “Frozen 2”. In fact, for the latter film(“Frozen 2”), I’m still expecting it to be a HUGE HIT at the box office.
“Ferdinand” was still able to make a decent profit two years ago, even though it had to compete with “Star Wars: The Last Jedi”, “Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle”, and “The Greatest Showman”. I expect the same for the former film(“Spies in Disguise”). It will have to compete with “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” and “Jumanji: The Next Level”, but I do think it does have the chance to do good numbers at the box office. Especially with it’s star power(Will Smith(who already has had a huge hit this year with the “Aladdin” remake) and Tom Holland(who is just coming off of “Avengers: Endgame” and “Spider-Man: Far From Home”).
(The fact that both “Ferdinand” and “Spies in Disguise” both come from Blue Sky and Fox(even though Disney is distributing it because of it’s acquisition) does help.)
Other than those two films(“Frozen 2” and “Spies in Disguise”), I don’t see the remaining animated films coming out that year doing all that well. Especially since with the exception of “How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World” and “Toy Story 4”, animated films really haven’t done well at all this year.
Here are the animated film list are released in this year :
Abominable, The Addams Family, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun The Sheep : Farmaggeddon, Frozen 2, HTTYDTHW, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, The Secret Life Of Pets 2, Spies In Disguise, Toy Story 4, UglyDolls, Wonder Park.
Just remind, only 2 animated films are hit in this year. (HTTYDTHW and Toy Story 4). Otherwise are flops even the films are mid table. Can Frozen 2 avoid animated curse in this year?
There’s just too many movies to be seen. Most are sequels; it’s overwhelming. There isn’t enough room for each movie to be a hit. Hollywood needs to cool it down.
The incomes are affect everything.
First, release date. If it is bad, like May – June, they are likely underperformed
Second, audience interest and plot twist. If too many plot holes and negative comments, probably might be bombed
Third, quality of films, like CGI, Voice Actors, costumes, and others. Some films are destroy most talented actor and/or actress
Fourth, persistent of incomes. You can look Aladdin and Venom are rocks even underperformed.
I agree. There are way too many movies coming out this summer. People can’t see all of them!
Meanwhile Aladdin still well performed within 880 million box office until now. It seems #1 – #4 likely to be Disney films. Even it is MCU in highest grossing movies in 2019
According to Box Office Bozo says :
“The release schedule during the same period was just as crowded in 2014 (Amazing Spiderman 2, Days of the Future Past, Maleficent, Godzilla,Transformers 4). All of the movies earned more than 500 million dollars worldwide”
Yes because they don’t have a bad schedule unlike this year.
Comparing the release schedule in that list is different against this year.
2014 : (The Amazing Spiderman 2 (31st March), X-Men : Days of the Future Past (10th May), Maleficent (28th May), Godzilla (8th May),Transformers : Age Of Extinction (19th June))
2014 doesn’t look bad because great schedule release, within every week blockbusters. and Blockbusters vs Blockbusters can affect everything.
2019 : (John Wick 3 : Parabellum (17th May), Aladdin : (24th May), Godzilla : King Of The Monsters (31st May), Dark Phoenix (7th June), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (7th June), Men In Black : International (14th June), Toy Story 4 (21st June), Annabelle Comes Home (26th June), Spider Man : Far From Home (2nd July))
See, the scheduling affect everything. 2014 are persistent but 2019 are too much competitions. In 2014 are 500 million above because it hasn’t bad schedule. In 2019, ONLY 2 ARE SURVIVED RIGHT NOW (Aladdin and Toy Story 4). And it’s from Disney. otherwise are Disaster or Underperformed
Meanwhile, Toy Story 4 (520 million USD) finally breaking the curse of the animation film in this year. By take down HTTYDTHW (519 million USD)
Anna is a movie about smart people for dumb people. A bad movie that deserves to be a bomb.
I don’t think Anna might be hit. But you can look other major blockbusters like The Lion King. I don’t believe The Lion King might be successor as Aladdin.
In the first two months in new season in 2019/2020, there isn’t so much blockbusters. Only The Lion King and Hobbs & Shaw are most wanted blockbusters
Doubtful movies are yet to be hit (Upcoming July – August) :
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Dora And The Lost City Of Gold
Farmaggeddon : A Shaun The Sheep
The Angry Birds Movie 2
Toy Story 4 (496 million USD) are closing to take down HTTYDTHW (519 million USD). But can they survive against Spider Man : Far From Home? With presale of Spider Man : Far From Home are sold out amongst in over the world?
Avengers Endgame still rocks above John Wick : Chapter 3 – Parabellum, Godzilla : King of the Monsters, and Dark phoenix in this weekend (#7). Your thoughts? the signal about Endgame re-release. Need 27 million to destroy Avatar legacy
And even Dumbo still #12. I think this year is golden year of Disney / Pixar / MCU era. Look how Disney films can persistent in this year. Can The Lion King become another successful Disney films? Or just “mid-table” films like Dumbo? Before the next 2 weeks release of Hobbs & Shaw?
I think The Lion King is going to be king at the box office.
Only 6 Movies so far have crossed the $500m threshold this year. Of the six movies, Aladdin and The Wandering Earth were not Event Films. I think it just so happened that Disney is releasing a large number of ‘Must See’ movies, while other studios are not. Alita could have crossed 500m had domestic numbers been stronger, while it is unknown how Godzilla 2 and Detective Pikachu will perform
In Terms of Domestic Box office, Us and John Wick 3 are also king
Forgetting about Alita, Godzilla 2 and Detective Pikachu. The schedule release is also affect all box office performance. If too many blockbusters, such as May and June, it is completely worst due too many competition. You can look how Aladdin still close to 900 million USD within bad schedule release, and even Toy Story 4 too. Toy Story 4 still underperform this week. Reason? Spider Man : Far From Home release date. But still can take down HTTYDTHW
The release schedule during the same period was just as crowded in 2014 (Amazing Spiderman 2, Days of the Future Past, Maleficent, Godzilla,Transformers 4). All of the movies earned more than 500 million dollars worldwide
Updated 1st July Box Office income based on Indonesia Standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (303 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (874 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (376 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (244 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (223 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (219 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (496 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (76 million USD)
Your thoughts?
First:
Does anyone think Hollywood is releasing too many movies this summer? There are so many movies that are coming soon; ‘SpiderMan: Far From Home,’ ‘Dora and the Lost City of Gold,’ ‘Angry Birds 2,’ ‘Hobbs and Shaw,’ ‘Midsommar,’ ‘The Lion King,’ ‘Crawl,’ ‘Playmobil Movie,’ and so much more. These are all big blockbusters and having too many this summer, people aren’t going to be able to watch all of them and a lot of them are going to do poorly. Your thoughts?
Second:
‘Yesterday’ movie isn’t doing well either. I’m not sure if it can make much more with ‘Spiderman: Far From Home’ coming into theatres soon. Your thoughts? Do you think it should be pending?
Lastly:
Do you think ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’ is going to steal ‘Toy Story Four’ audience? The film hasn’t made quite as much money as the third did, and releasing the Spiderman movie so close to it is definitely going to kill it, plus ‘Annabelle,’ ‘Yesterday,’ ‘Child’s Play,’ and more. Is Disney stealing their own audience?
Again, your thoughts?
By the way did anyone see the Avengers Endgame rerelease?
I agree your opinion. First, Spider-Man : Far From Home is likely biggest hit after Aladdin. But I’m doubtful about The Lion King. The reason is, bad schedule release due to in next week Hobbs & Shaw. Hoobs & Shaw trailer is completely amazing, and Hobbs & Shaw even could withstand #1 in over 3 weeks. Just remind NO BLOCKBUSTERS are #1 in over 3 weeks. Only 3 weeks withstand due to major blockbuster competition. I think The Lion King might manage over 500 million USD. You can look how Aladdin still become the next Venom 2018, underperformed but still persistent. And now Aladdin is 874 million USD.
Second, Yesterday is now 24 million USD. I think they might manage 100 million USD.
Third, Yes. The bad scheduling for Toy Story 4, Annabelle Comes Home, and Child’s Play might affect of 3 films, because Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse release is great, due to not too much blockbusters in July, only The Lion King. I think this year is worst release date ever. You can check the schedule of blockbusters. Completely sh-t. Toy Story 4 can only #1 in 2 weeks because Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse release, and mostly the presale of Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse in all world are 90% full in amongst of all theaters in world.
I think Disney is stealing audience from themselves; releasing Toy Story 4 so close to Spider-Man: Far From Home is really going to take the Toy Story 4 Audience.
By the way, Shaft got released internationally on June 28th. 30-35 million budget and only a 17.4 gross. It’s definitely flopping. I think you should at least put it on pending.
Shaft definitely did lousy, but it was sold off to Netflix in most markets, so I’m leaving it off.
Oh, okay.
Tracking Box Office update 29th June 2019 based on Indonesia standard Time.
Annabelle Comes Home is currently 23 million USD. Child’s Play and Rocketman still above 2 big budget within 200 million USD, there are Godzilla : King Of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix. Aladdin still in top 3 despite over 1 month release. I’m doubtful Toy Story 4 are become 2nd most success animation movies, even with 302 million box office, isn’t good enough and within Spider Man : Far From Home world release in 2nd July, that cause major meltdown blockbuster. Annabelle Comes Home might be hold to 200 million USD. Meanwhile, MIB International and Secret Life Of Pets 2 are slow gross, due too much competition blockbuster since 17th May 2019. If Toy Story 4 cannot defeat and take down HTTYDTHW, Toy Story 4 are ended like other 5 animation film.
Your thoughts?
In my opinion, Aladdin will be box office king at least for children’s films. I think too many films were released close together, and they were hurt at the box office. Too much competition like you stated.
With a $182 Million or so worldwide revenue heading into its third weekend & production cost of $110 Million is definitely a disappointment though I guess it avoided being an official bomb.
What about Booksmart? It’s only made 20M and they had to have spent at least that on marketing alone.
the movie cost 6 million alone and most of the marketing was purely digital, so they didn’t spend that much.
not really a loss for annapurna
NOBODY knows how much the film cost. 6 million is a LIE and you know it Juan Manuel. Annapurana has refused to release the info. You know what that means…
i.e. BOOKSMART WAS/IS A FLOP~!
Looking for Wednesday Box Office, Annabelle Comes Home is in #2 at debut. I think Annabelle debut isn’t as bad as Dark Phoenix. Going through like JW3 are amazing. Meanwhile, John Wick 3 Parabellum still above Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark phoenix. Aladdin is still rocking in #3 in Wednesday. Annabelle Comes Home debut is 7 million USD. Your thoughts?
It seems BOM has fixing some bugs, including Dumbo income errors, and now back to 350 million USD. TS4 still rocks in 258 million USD. I wonder Annabelle Comes Home can soar up to 250 million USD even within Spider Man : Far From Home
Well I believe Toy Story 4 could take down HTTYDTHW, but within Spider Man : Far From Home released in next 2 weeks, it might affect Toy Story 4, and if they underperformed again, they are ended like Godzilla King of The Monsters. Still only HTTYDTHW are the one and only animated films are success. Otherwise are flops or underperformed
Why isnt Dumbo on this list? Its budget (without P&A) is 170 million while it has made only 345 million global. Its a bomb.
Well, i don’t know. But You can imagine, the Dumbo box office original is 350 million USD, but now stripped to 280 million USD. How could they lost 70 million box office USD in next days? Is that Box office Mojo mistakes? Or just Marketing Adjustment? Or just financial crisis?
Mojo is full of errors. It’s just a box office archive, they do not form the box office grosses. Check ComScore for actual reporting.
Mojo is fixed some bugs in that websites
Mojo has been my go to source for box office financials for years but yes from now on I’ll go to ComScore first. Wow. Very impressed.
Thanks for your post. I really was wondering if Dumbo was a financial failure too.
Ronny why are you out of remedial class? Shuddup
I just checked in BOM, I was surprised Dumbo box office stripped 70 millions. Originally was 350 million USD, but now it becomes 280 million USD.
And another Updated 25th June based on Indonesia standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (289 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (813 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (366 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (232 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (191 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (182 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (244 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
Thanks for the update. I appreciate you posting more information about Dumbo.
Even “Toy Story 4” has under-performed at the box office, although it was box office king by a country mile..Have audiences finally had enough of cookie cutter, stale franchise movies? I think people want fresh,original films with realistic stories and characters; the big studios haven’t made too many of those this year!
Well, we all know that Pixar will be mainly giving us original films for the near future, considering how “Toy Story 4” was confirmed to be their last sequel for a while. As long as “Onward” and “Soul” can make big bank rather than ending up on this site like “The Good Dinosaur,” audiences will be certain to get their promised share of original IPs from Pixar and its talented crew.
Even within 302 million box office within Toy Story 4, I’m doubtful if Toy Story can be success like HTTYDTHW. First, Annabelle Comes home and Spider Man : Into the Spider Verse release date contact. Second, the presale of Spider Man : Into the Spider Verse, 85% might be sold out over world territory. Third, facing against : John Wick 3 : Parabellum, Aladdin, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, MIB International, The Secret Of Life Pets 2, even most of them are underperform, and Toy Story 4 still #1, it isn’t good enough in next week. Fourth, many animated films are doomed in this years. None of them above 200 million, except HTTYDTHW
May we NOW mourn the loss of both EuropaCorp and Luc Besson’s sexual assaults (Haven’t you heard of that???), as Anna made 3.5 million U. S. on a reported $30 million budget and placed 11th at this weekend’s box office report!!! At least Lionsgate still enjoying the profit of Keanu Reeves’ John Wick 3 over that unknown girl’s one!!!
Updated 24th June based on Indonesia standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (289 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (810 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (349 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (232 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (194 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (182 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (238 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
I’m doubtful if The Lion King become 3rd most Disney and/or Pixar hit movies in this year. Due to next 2 weeks, Hobbs & Shaw are released, and many people are likely to attract that films. Even Aladdin is still survive with amongst of blockbusters which released in May and June despite underperformed but still manage in #3 in this weekend due to strong worldwide. And now Aladdin are 810 million USD. Can The Lion King becomes another Disney Live Action profit, or just ended like Dumbo?
Toy Story 4 in 3 days can take down (238 million USD) :
A. Dark phoenix (232 million USD), Secret Life of Pets 2 (194 million USD) in over 2 weeks
B. Men In Black : International (182 million USD) in over 1 weeks
I think Dark phoenix are the lowest grossing in X Men franchise. I’m learn from films like Pirates Of The Carribean : Dead Men Tell No Tales, and Transformers : The Dark Knight, even they are underperformed in 2017, but still manage to avoid box office bombs. I think Dark Phoenix are ended like Pirates Of The Carribean : Dead Men Tell No Tales (2nd lowest income POTC series, budget lower than On Stranger Tides, the most expensive budgets ever), and Transformers : The Dark Knight (lowest income Transformers series)
If we looking a lot of blockbusters in this year and fixed release date, only Hobbs & Shaw have best schedule, due to August and September haven’t much blockbusters. Only IT Chapter Two in September are likely to hit, and my prediction Hobbs & Shaw will be first film to get #1 in over 4 consecutive weeks. Terminator : Dark Fate, Frozen 2, IT : Chapter Two, Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker release schedule aren’t as bad as May and June blockbusters. Your thoughts?
Comparing to Aladdin, Toy Story 4 are likely to succeed Aladdin (currently 810 million USD)
Debut : Aladdin 91 million USD, Toy Story 4 118 million USD (USA), currently 238 million USD, and now Aladdin still above Men in Black International, Godzilla King of the Monsters, Dark Phoenix, John Wick 3 and The Secret Of Life Pets 2 in this weekend (#3). And still surpass Men in Black International, Dark Phoenix, The Secret Of Life Pets 2. No films are still #1 weekend over 4 weeks. Only 3 weeks long last.
‘Anna’ is the worst box office opening of Luc Besson’s career, collecting. $ 3.5M.Just horrible.
And, that just the US release!!!
Pending movies: ANNA,SHAFT,LATE NIGHT.
Yeah
Amazon just spent too much money buying Late Night when it was always more of a niche idea. A late show writing room does nothing for the majority of moviegoers
Absoultely concur with you.
It seems Toy story 4 likely to become 2nd most hit after HTTYDTHW despite HTTYDTHW early release in world. My prediction after 3 days Toy story 4 might be approximately 250-350 million box office incomes. With an amazing debut 47 million USD in USA. Comparing to Aladdin debut, Toy story 4 incomes higher than Aladdin even still well performed
I think you are probably right about that.
Spies in Disguise, which released by Fox/Disney, may hurt it, largely due to Disney’s own release of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, getting the talk of the Holiday releases, much the same way that Ferdnad did when it’s competing against The Force Awakens!!!!
“Ferdinand” actually did do decently at the box office, even with all the competition it had(“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”, “Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle”, and “The Greatest Showman”(the latter also coming from Fox)(and the first and third films also being currently owned by Disney, just like this film)). Yes, it wasn’t that big of a success(making almost 300 million dollars on a 110 million dollar budget), but it was able to hold on despite that. I’m sure that “Spies In Disguise” will do perfectly fine against “Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker” and “Jumanji: The Next Chapter”, even though the latter two films(especially “The Rise Of Skywalker”) will destroy it at the box office.
Essentially, there seemed to be plenty of room for all those films to thrive concurrently in December, even when it initially appeared as though they would probably cannibalize each other.
And in terms of “Ferdinand,” it was partially able to thrive because it provided an animated counter-programming option for families with kids too young to watch “The Last Jedi” or “Jumanji” (both PG-13 blockbusters), and weren’t into live-action musicals like “The Greatest Showman.” That factor, especially when combined with the idea that the holiday season tends to be one of the major popular movie-going times of the year, had allowed the smaller Blue Sky toon to fare well at the box office without getting crushed by its surrounding competition, rather than getting destroyed by some larger films like what happened to “Uglydolls” back in May.
I’m doubtful if Jumanji 3 is become massive hit, due to next week is Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker released, and Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker might overtake Captain Marvel if debuts are well and get positive review from critics
Toy Story 4 have similar budget to Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix. Predicted 165 million box office of 3 days opening. Your thoughts?
Let’s track the box office incomes currently ;
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (278 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (738 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (346 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (208 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (169 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (115 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (budget is similar to Godzilla : King of the Monsters & Dark Phoenix)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
Even toy story 4 is underperforming 20 mil below expectations
It might pick up more business from word of mouth. I took my daughter to see it yesterday, and it was really very nicely done.
It seems Annabelle Comes Home could take down some most disappointed blockbuster in next weekend. Even this film is horror-thrilled, maybe Annabelle Comes Home can persist like John Wick 3. Just let we see in the end of June. Just remind Spider Man : Far From Home (released in 2nd of July) could affect amongst of May-June blockbusters. Oh, remind MIB International is only 115 million USD after initial first week. Is it a meltdown of blockbusters?
MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL
Yes, right here at the top.
This movie could have added another $40mn ~ $50mn if not for its below par marketing.
As discussed ad nauseum here and confirmed by Deadline, MIB International thanks to responsible budgeting, its domestic OW narrowly surpassing expectations at $30.03M, and most importantly strong international box office revenues, will be absent from the list here (and will go past breakeven). After ancillaries kick in… Sony will likely net a small profit. However, I’m with you on needing better marketing.
Wonder Park, UglyDolls, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, Secret Life Of pets 2 are the victim of cursed animation films in this year due to low box office. None of these 5 are above 200 million USD.
Can other animation films like Toy Story 4, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmagedddon, Frozen 2, Playmobil: The Movie become succeed after How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, or just ended like 5 animation films with low income with mixing comments (Wonder Park, UglyDolls, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, Secret Life Of pets 2)?
Out of the upcoming animated films left in 2019, I think only “Toy Story 4” and “Frozen 2” will become successes at the box office due to the massive amounts of buzz for them. Besides those two, the others will probably either flop or under-perform like what happened with “Wonder Park,” “The Lego Movie 2,” or “Uglydolls.”
However, you may have still left out two more animated releases that are releasing in 2019; those are Dreamworks’ “Abominable” and Blue Sky’s “Spies in Disguise.” In terms of their box office performance, I’m not predicting either of them to make as much as “How to Train Your Dragon 3” or even “Secret Life of Pets 2.” Still, they’ll most likely do better than “Missing Link” or “Uglydolls” at the box office, simply because of the idea that an animated film would have to post atrocious box office numbers in order to gross that low.
Toy story 4 still hit but below expectations
Due to limitations of Toy Story 4 worldwide release due to John Wick – Toy Story 4 blockbuster timeline (John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, Aladdin, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, MIB International, Toy Story 4) still remains in worldwide despite lack of incomes, because of sh-t release date, release every one week, can they become another global hit and succeed like HTTYDTHW or just ended like other 5 animated films?
May you add Shaft (2019) to the pending list?
Luc Besson might have another flop on his hands with his new movie Anna.
You got it! 1.5 million Opening Day at 2100 screens and 28% on Rotten Tomatoes!!!!!! May we NOW mourn the loss of EuropaCorp and Luc Besson’s sexual assaults!!!
Yikes. I hadn’t even heard about Luc Besson’s sexual assault allegations. No wonder this movie flopped. Well, it was probably that along with a small marketing campaign and weak reviews.
Can Toy Story 4 become a successor of HTTYDTHW, or just ended like other 5 below average animation movies?
Animated movies this year :
Hit : How To Train Your Dragon : The Hidden World
Average : The Secret Life Of Pets 2, The Lego Movie 2
Bombed : Wonder Park, Uglydolls, Missing Link
Can Toy Story 4 become a successor of HTTYDTHW, or just ended like 5 average-to-be-bombed movies?
Meanwhile The Secret of Life Pets 2 still #1 at current box office incomes. All of this listed movies :
The Secret of Life Pets 2
Aladdin
Men In Black : International
are switch position one each other,
The Secret of Life Pets 2 still underperformed, but they can manage to avoid box office bomb due to low box office incomes (158 million USD)
Godzilla : King of The Monsters are currently 343 million USD box office
Your thoughts?
Except MIB International, i can see the rest not getting on this board.
Godzilla – As much as i wanted it to be on this board, the movie was never going to be a flop especially when you have a godzilla and couple of crazy monsters and one of your target market is asia.
Not sure if this is a joke or not, but of the ones listed MIB International has the least shot of making the list due to its lower budget and other factors.
It seems Men In Black International are likely to avoid box office bomb, despite slow start after initial release. Only 106 million USD after first week. Can MIB withstand and survive? Oh yes Toy Story 4 are released in next 2 days, and can affect Godzilla King of The Monsters, Dark phoenix, Secret Life of Pets 2, MIB International box office incomes due to blockbuster demise. If their incomes are as same as John Wick 3, MIB Int. are stripped in list.
Don’t forget Toy Story 3 box office is 1,026 billion USD
Agreed 100%, in what is an interesting discussion to have of the increasing importance of international box office… so far, MIB International’s week after OW have surpassed Sony’s model in expectations and now they are, against all odds beyond breakeven and going into small profit territory once ancillaries kick in.
Despite Toy Story 4 get 100% rating in Rotten Tomatoes even before release in world territories, let we see how much Toy Story 4 get. Can they broke Aladdin current record (727 million USD)
Most likely, “Toy Story 4” will eclipse “Aladdin” at the global box office. Considering how it’s already broken presale numbers set by “Incredibles 2,” the sequel will probably be aiming for a total around the numbers of “Toy Story 3” or higher.
Katie/Katie Reid (whichever one you decide to use) you replied to a post saying MIB International isn’t looking so hot right now with a series of incorrect statements. These statements have been addressed and corrected, multiple times, with facts indexed: MIB International’s OW was $30.03M which barely exceeded the studio’s $30M expectation, the budget of the movie and how costs were offset, and how the international box office saved it from being a flop and being included on the list. There is, absolutely, no other way to take that. Any confusion or anxiety furthermore is, solely, of your own doing, borne out of your embarrassment of being wrong. The only one who seems to have a problem is you, as you continue to write a series of posts on the same subject, reiterating the same agenda. If you don’t want your pattern of behavior exposed, don’t continue it. Simple.
I will go by Katie S. then. I am not Katie Reid.I am a totally different person.I have only discussed MIB one time on this board. I replied to Randy that the first weekend didn’t seem so great.It is good that it is not considered a flop. The only posts that I have repeated myself numerous times have been about Dumbo. Please get a life and move on.
The owner of this site knows who posts on here, and he can check the IP addresses on here. I am not the same person as Katie Reid. I am Katie Soto.
Well, there are many blockbusters are yet to be bombed due to lower rate (below 60%). But some of them are saved or stripped in bomb list despite bad schedule :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (Hit)(highest incomes in all John Wick trilogy, 276 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (Hit)(724 million box office USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (yet to be stripped, although the box office is only 339 million USD. Need to take down Dumbo to avoid box office)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (completelty bombed)(204 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (doubtful)(154 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (doubtful)(currently 102 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (yet to be released)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
I know that I am beating a dead horse, but did Dumbo break even? Some sites say that it bombed, and others say that it was a hit. I agree with you about the other films. too
I think it’s time to add Dark Phoenix on. It dropped 72.6% for an estimated second weekend of $9,005,000 domestically, and if it is applied worldwide, the estimated second weekend is $37,430,752.20. There’s no way it’ll make money back now.
“Dark Phoenix” is already on the pending list, so the movie will probably get an article here as soon as BombReport can create it. At this point, there’s no way it’ll be making its money back, which will pit it as a certain lock for this site.
Only 204 million Dark Phoenix incomes after second weekend
Yvonne: “The Sun is Also a Star” was budgeted at only $9 million, so while it was a flop ($5.4 million) it won’t be covered on this site because the minimum budget that is considered is $20 million.
Dark Phoenix will be up in the next day or so.
What about The Sun is Also a Star?
Men in black international is being saved by the foreign box office
Yes, international audiences saved it from having an appearance here and being a bomb. Here is the exact quote from Deadline (from it’s box office analysis for this weekend): Sony made good figures overseas with this pic with $73.7M and a global take of $102.2M. That should get the film to breakeven on an anticipated multiple of 3x. Read further down on how smart Sony was in fiscally covering their risk on this reboot. For those wondering, OW domestically is now at $28.5M (and may go higher based on how Father’s Day performs.
But is it going to continue to make money for long? Especially with “Toy Story 4″(which is expected to have a huge opening weekend of at least 135 million dollars, and has a 97 percent Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, an 84 percent on Metacritic, and an A Cinemascore) and “Spider-Man: Far From Home”(which is already having a lot of buzz, and is expected to have a 170 million dollar 6 day opening weekend(120 million dollars for it’s 3 day opening weekend)) on the horizon? The only thing saving it from being on this list(if it ends up making a profit) is it’s 110 million dollar budget. If it had a budget similar to what “Dark Phoenix” had(around 200 million dollars), it would have been a major flop. I can see the film making 330 million dollars worldwide at the highest number, which would happen if the film didn’t have the huge competition it currently has. Unfortunately, if it keeps slowing down at the box office(which is likely), it can see it at 250 million dollars worldwide at it’s highest number. That certainly wouldn’t be terrible numbers, but they wouldn’t be good either. We’ll see.
Only 24% rate of RT in Men In Black : International. It seems this blockbuster bombed again
Can Toy Story 4 survived like Aladdin? OR just ended like Dark Phoenix? Due to the bad release date of blockbuster :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
24th May : Aladdin
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters
7th June : Dark Phoenix & Secret Life of Pets 2
14th June : Men In Black : International
21st June : Toy Story 4
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home
Even many great movies in May – June, none of them are above 60% rate, and this is the worst blockbuster era ever. You can check the movies like : Aladdin, MIB International, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, Godzilla King of the Monster, all are UNDERPERFORMED. And it’s before Toy Story 4. Look how the schedule release DESTROYING these 5 blockbuster (Aladdin, MIB International, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, Godzilla King of The Monster), and these 5 blockbuster RELEASE in one week to DESTROY another blockbusters. They are :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
24th May : Aladdin
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters
7th June : Dark Phoenix & Secret Life of Pets 2
14th June : Men In Black : International
21st June : Toy Story 4
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home
YOU CHECK THIS SCHEDULE, DOESN’T IT LOOK DEVASTATING? These blockbuster release in one week after a blockbuster
There are many sequels are isn’t looking well in this year. There are :
Secret Life Of Pets 2 (underperformed)
Dark Phoenix (completely bombed, too much negative word on mouth)
Godzilla King of Monsters : poor box incomes, low rate, lame in all ways, and might be bombed.
Your thoughts?
Men in black international isn’t looking so hot right now
No, it really isn’t! A lot of movie sequels have bombed this year.
“Katie” You wrote this exact comment now three times, and we get it… no matter how many times people bring in facts and statistics to refute that Men in Black International will be fine in the end, and not a bomb, you still want to spam the same message… under sheer insistence. It’s not needed and isn’t the intention of this board. Maybe start your own anti-fan blog instead.
Gosh Kory leave her alone! MIB isn’t doing well, I agree too! Just because you think this comment section doesn’t include comments like hers doesn’t mean you have to criticize her. It isn’t spam, it’s just her opinion and comment, which is what this section is about!
Thanks Katie Reid. I never even posted about MIB, and I wa was just agreeing with Randy that this was not a good year for sequels.
I was agreeing with Randy’s post. I never even made a post about MIB at all. I wanted to know that status of Dumbo, because it seems that it is right in the middle. You must have me mixed up with another poster. This site is about movies that have flopped. What is the problem?
Only 147 million USD Dark Phoenix incomes since the day of this film release. Your thoughts? It seems Dark Phoenix are the worst X-men Movies, due too much negative comments on that film, or maybe bad CGI or acting
Definitely not cgi or acting.
According to the films, MIB rate in RT only 25%. It seems none of the blockbuster since Aladdin release, the rate of RT is above 60%. Still same dull as Dark Phoenix. I don’t think those both films has too much negative word of mouth, the reason why both of them are bombed. Managing 200 million box office is the only way MIB to stripped in this list.
Can Toy Story 4 take down blockbuster curse?
I hear that Toy Story is tracking for a 200 million opening, so, it’s won’t be any problems taking down the curse!!!
Currently, “Men In Black: International” is tracking for an opening weekend of $24-25 million at the domestic box office. Even though its budget is a lot cheaper than “Dark Phoenix,” the film may still be tracking to flop based on current projections (unless it can have very strong overseas grosses to compensate for a poor showing in North America).
Unlikely, the film cost less than $100M to make and received $75M in partnership offset costs (source: deadline). It’ll make around $100M domestically, another $150M to $200M WW… which will avoid it being a bomb and depending on the scale might even eek out a profit, especially with SVOD added.
According to Variety, the reported budget was $110 million.
As well, with this type of projected opening I highly doubt “Men In Black: International” will get close to $100 million domestically, barring very strong legs (which will be unlikely due to reviews and competition). Presuming that it finishes with around $60-70 million in North America, it’d indeed need a very strong overseas showing in order to break even (much greater than the typical 35/65 split for blockbuster films) and turn a profit at the box office.
From deadline directly: The revival we hear cost Sony a low $94M before P&A with less than 18% participations each by Tencent and Hemisphere. For the P&A, Sony received $75M towards that from a variety of corporations, including Saxby’s and Lexus (source: Deadline). Also, your legs for a film starting at $25M (pending it doesn’t increase) is abnormally small. At worst, it would do $85M. So, yes, it will break even and, likely, turn a profit due to its modest budget. The case which you’ve already made with your own model.
Does anyone realize that Shaft comes out tomorrow?? Barely any advertising, medium budget. I think it’s going to be a hard flop 😕
It is already tracking for horrible $8M opening but it won’t make it here since we don’t know how much New Line deal with Netflix.
Supposedly MIB is under $100 million to make, so it might avoid the bomb list.
Let we see until Monday how much MIB goes
It cost 110 million to make my G
Some sources claim it’s $94 million net.
$24-25M in domestic, same as China. Doesnt look too good and it will strugle to even hit $200M global. I think it will make it here.
Your math is off, majorly. It is expected to do $30 to $35M in China alone OW. International (not including domestic) totals will be $200M alone, which at a cost of less than $100M avoids the bomb list.
Delayed Movies shift to next year (these films are originally set in this year, but pushed into next year) :
Sonic The Hedgehog
Artemis Fowl
Kingsman : The Great Game
The New Mutants
Bond 25
Movies are set in 2020, but move into this year :
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil
Movies are set in 2020, but delayed :
Avatar 2
Your thoughts about the delayed and move film release date?
There is too many films out for the summer, so they changed their release date until next year. Sonic looks really idiotic, and it already looks like a major bombe.
Only 4th Place Godzilla King of The Monsters in 2nd week. and Dark Phoenix only 2nd, amount theater lower than Secret Life of Pets 2. Godzilla need to at least 400 million box office incomes, although that budget is 170-200 million USD. Aladdin even withstand in 1st-3rd, despite Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of Pets 2 release in same day
Godzilla grossed 290 million it might be one of those movies where it will just squeeze out of bomb like the Tarzan movie with a 180m budget and 350 mil worldwide Godzilla has similar budget
Only 53% of RT Secret life Of Pets 2. There are many blockbusters upcoming, but none of them (Aladdin (56%), Godzilla King of the Monsters (40%), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (53%), Dark Phoenix (22%)) above 60% since Aladdin release. Your thoughts? Can MIB International and Toy story 4 still above 70% in RT?
100, 100, 98, with all these Tomatometer rankings of the previous ones, it’s won’t be any surprises for Toy Story 4.
Rt will give toy story 4 a high score because its pixar even though toy story 4 like mib international is a cashgrab
MIBI doesn’t have Will Smith (That’s the reason Aladdin have him), but, Toy Story 4 have the whole cast from the first three there!!!
Secret Life of Pets 2 survived, but Godzilla and dark Phoenix probably added in this list. DP only #2 below Secret Life Of Pets 2. 16.5 millions USD debut might stripped on this list.
Look how Godzilla and Dark phoenix big budget, needs at least 400 million box office for each and they fight against Aladdin and Secret Life of Pets 2, due to 175-200 million USD box office, doesn’t it look like this both might bombed? Aladdin survived. Secret Life of Pets 2 might be average hit, can overtake HTTYDTHW if performed well before Toy story 4 and Spider Man : Far From Home blockbuster in next 1-3 weeks
In the third week, Aladdin back to #1 in box office. It seems Godzilla King of The Monsters will be added on pending list. Only 199 million in one week, and lower than Budget. I can’t believe why WB films always big budget? Mostly 200 millions box office. Does WB films are too expensive?
Godzilla sequel #2 means 98% bombed in box office due to huge budgets. So does Dark Phoenix
Godzilla is at like 300 million now
Still called flop if isn’t above 400 million USD. Even sh-tty Dumbo can survived
It seems Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix will be added in this list soon. The reason is 200 million budget, and they fight against Secret Life of pets 2. And, Secret Life of Pets 2 still might be added in this list.
That poor track of Godzilla in second weekend should be added on this list. Only 199 million USD box office, lower than Aladdin, and still lower than John Wick Parabellum
And Dark Phoenix is still doubtful for hit because theater is lower than Secret Life of Pets 2, and even secret Life of Pets 2 could ended like Wonder Park and Uglydolls
And even “The Secret Life Of Pets 2” is performing below expectations, with a 60-70 million dollar opening weekend now lowered down to a 45-50 million dollar opening weekend. Are people starting to get tired of Illumination’s films? Especially with “Toy Story 4” expected to destroy the box office with a 150-200 million dollar opening weekend two weeks from now, and stealing that film’s(“The Secret Life Of Pets 2”)thunder? Kind of like six years ago, where “Despicable Me 2” stole all the thunder that “Monsters University” had(only now this time, it’s the Pixar film(“Toy Story 4”) that’s stealing the Illumination film’s(“The Secret Life Of Pets 2”) thunder)? It’s still going to do great numbers nevertheless, but it’s now time that Illumination is starting to be on it’s decline.
“Godzilla: King Of The Monsters” did decently on it’s opening weekend, but it was barely beaten by “Aladdin”(2019)(and that film was on it’s second weekend), and it has been posting huge drops. Will it be a contender on this list? Probably.
Only 53% of RT Secret life Of Pets 2. There are many blockbusters upcoming, but none of them (Aladdin (56%), Godzilla King of the Monsters (40%), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (53%), Dark Phoenix (22%)) above 60% since Aladdin release. Your thoughts? Can MIB International and Toy story 4 still above 70% in RT?
You should put Godzilla on the pending list. It only has made a little more then it’s budget and I don’t think it will make much more money.
That poor track of Godzilla is completely bombed. Look Aladdin, Dark phoenix, and secret life of pets 2. Another major films such as MIB International and Toy Story 4 f-cking each others to avoid bombed box office. Aladdin survived because still #1 in 3rd week. Doesn’t it look to f-cked up of these blockbusters? And destroying high budget films, didn’t it?
August flops: Dora And The Lost City Of Gold( 3 weeks after The Lion King and a week before Angry Birds 2 ),Good Boys, Playmobil The Movie (2 weeks after Angry Birds 2 and a week after My Spy), October: The Addams Family (2 weeks after Abominable and a week before Malificent 2), November: Terminater Dark Fate, Artic Justice Thunder Squad (2 weeks after Malicficent 2 and 3 weeks before Frozen 2) December: Farmaggedon A Shaun The Sheep Movie (3 weeks after Frozen 2, same weekend as Jumanji 3, a week before Star Wars and 2 weeks before Spies In Disguise.)
Dark Phoenix looks like the next mortal engines…er, I mean, mortal lock for this site.
Yup ! Pretty much . . . . it deserves a good spot with $200 mn budget !!!
I think The Sun Is Also a Star should be added here.
I feel like Dark Phoenix is going to flop but I wanna know what other people think. It has no connection to the MCU, the hype has been kinda low, and X-Men: Apocalypse underperformed but didn’t outright flop. Perhaps that’s what will happen this time but I feel like most people won’t care to see the Dark Phoenix saga ruined a second time after The Last Stand.
Dark Phoenix costs $200 million and it has the lowest theater count since the first one. I don’t think Disney has high expectations for it anyways.
Disney probably wanted to focus more on “Aladdin”(2019), “Toy Story 4”, and “The Lion King”(2019) anyway.
I was shocked to see that the film had a low screen count.
Bad reviews(22 percent on Rotten Tomatoes and 44 percent on Metacritic) aren’t helping either.
“The Secret Life Of Pets 2″(as lackluster as it looks) will beat it HARD at the box office.
It might do well overseas, but the competition(especially in the following weeks, with “Toy Story 4”, “Spider-Man: Far From Home”, and “The Lion King”(2019) on the horizon) is strong and it’s going to fall down quickly. A very poor B- Cinemascore(which is especially poor for a big budgeted tentpole film like this) is also going to lose audiences.
Oh well.
Do you think Godzilla will flop? It’s made a lot of money in its first weekend but it dropped to second and I don’t know if it will make so much more to break even.
Maybe. It did decent numbers on it’s opening weekend, but it’s not that good for a film that had 200 million dollars(plus an extra 100 million dollars for marketing)(300 million dollars including marketing) put into it. Competition is going to make it even harder to do well.
I didn’t like the film at all. It was mainly an excuse for the film to have big monster battles rather than tell a good story. I was really disappointed.
Will that take a toll on “Godzilla vs. Kong” next year? Probably.
According to my prediction about upcoming blockbuster, updated 3rd of June, 2019, based on Indonesia standard Time :
Aladdin : Hit (445 million USD box office).
Godzilla : King of The Monsters : Doubtful (170 million USD box office). Might added in this list
Dark Phoenix : Doubtful
Secret Life of Pets 2 : Doubtful
Men In Black : International : Hit
Toy Story 4 : Hit
Annabelle Comes Home : Hit
Spider Man : Far From Home : Hit
The Lion King : Doubtful
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood : Doubtful
Hobbs & Shaw : Hit
Dora and the Lost City of Gold : Bombed
The Angry Birds Movie 2 ; Doubtful
Angel Has Fallen : Doubtful
IT Chapter 2 : Hit
Joker : Doubtful
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil : Doubtful
A Shaun the Sheep Movie : Farmageddon : Doubtful
Terminator : Dark Fate : Doubtful
Frozen 2 : Hit
Jumanji 3 : Doubtful
Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker : Hit
Your thoughts?
Dark Phoenix will most likely bomb hard.
“The Lion King”(2019) listed as “Doubtful”? Even though that film is tracking for a massive 180-200 million dollar opening weekend? Wow.
We can added Lion king is doubtful. Reason? In next 2 weeks, Hobbs and Shaw are released, and affect to The lion King trackdown box office. And if Lion King is ended like Godzilla 2, what are you doing now? And if Hobbs and Shaw is higher than the Lion king remake? Or Lion King remake is worse? I don’t believe Lion king is hit or not because of schedule release
It seems Godzilla : King Of The Monsters might be added on this list. The reason is Aladdin in second weekend still performed well, and now Aladdin 445 million box office, and Godzilla opening just 170 million USD, due to big budget. Those big budgets in this weekend might affect Dark Phoenix as well, and both Godzilla and Dark Phoenix can added in this list. Thus, Godzilla : King of The Monsters RT just dropped 30%. Some good and hit movies are low RT like Venom, but Venom is a blockbuster hit.
“Godzilla: King of Monsters” should probably be added to the pending list. It’s estimated to debut with just $45-50 million domestically and $130 million worldwide, which isn’t that great for its long-term profitability if the budget is an expensive $170 million-230 million.
First, many people still interest about Aladdin. Aladdin 2019 visual and graphics are 9/10 rate. And you can hear Jasmine singing Speechless, remind me of Endgame scenes.
Second, Godzilla 2 schedule are bad, battling with Aladdin isn’t good enough. Oh yes don’t forget Secret Life of Pets 2 and Dark Phoenix might be a big threat for Godzilla 2 because this both is released in this week.
Third, opening debut is lower than Aladdin, Aladdin is survived, and can even to bypass 550 million box office. And Godzilla need at least 400 million box office in order to avoid on pending list. Remember The Mummy Tom Cruise, still bombed even that movies box office doubling the budget (195 million USD),(400 million USD box office).
Fourth, upcoming Illumination movies, Secret Life Of Pets 2. They should learn from HTTYDTHW to avoid major animation flops in this year.
Movie financing has became really messy in recent years. For example Warner Bros. terminated its movie financing deal with RatPac-Dune last year after sexual harassment allegations against Brett Ratner surfaced and this past January, WB won the rights for the RatPac-Dune library and the RatPac logo was removed from the home media prints of Justice League and has the Access Entertainment logo and this logo was shown on the next last few movies from the RatPac-Dune deal like Ready Player One, Game Night and The 15:17 to Paris. LStar Capital and Sony Pictures cut ties in July 2017 after a series of box-office flops and LStar was originally going to finance The Emoji Movie, Flatliners and their future movies. But, after reevaluating the deal, Sony and LStar ended their movie financing deal and this came only 3 years after Sony Pictures signed the deal and 2 years before It was set to expire. Universal currently has a financing deal arranged with China-based Perfect World Pictures and some of the movies that are part of the deal flopped and it may not be surprising if they cut ties as well. Even Paramount tried to ink a financing deal with Huahua Media and Shanghai Film Group in 2017 but that deal would fall apart after Transformers: The Last Knight, Baywatch and Ghost In The Shell flopped. All of this shows how Big movie studio financing can be really risky and they coin a bunch of capital into movies that end up bombing.
You are right. Almost of WB movies have lower rate, even RT mostly below 60%. You can check : Fantastic Beasts : The Crimes of Grinderwald, Justice League, Ghost In The Shell, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, only 50% survived in pending list of bombed.
Looks like Godzilla’s going to underperform in the States. We’ll see if the international box office’ll make up for it.
Predicted the upcoming most wanted films or blockbusters :
Aladdin : Hit
Godzilla : King of The Monsters : Doubtful
Dark Phoenix : Doubtful
Secret Life of Pets 2 : Doubtful
Men In Black : International : Hit
Toy Story 4 : Doubtful
Annabelle Comes Home : Hit
Spider Man : Far From Home : Hit
The Lion King : Doubtful
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood : Doubtful
Hobbs & Shaw : Hit
Dora and the Lost City of Gold : Bombed
The Angry Birds Movie 2 ; Doubtful
IT Chapter 2 : Hit
Joker : Doubtful
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil : Doubtful
Terminator : Dark Fate : Doubtful
Frozen 2 : Hit
Jumanji 3 : Doubtful
Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker : Hit
Your thoughts?
I think some aren’t right. Men in black will do alright. Lion king will for sure hit a billion. Once upon a time in Hollywood has name talent, it’ll do great. I think secret life of pets will do fine, and I’ll be surprised if toy story 4 doesn’t reach close to a billion. Also, I am scared for godzilla.
Some doubtful incomes is based on scheduled release, not based on films. Toy Story 4 is doubtful because in next 2 weeks, Spider Man : Far From Home MCU huge interest, and could affect Toy Story 4 incomes. Secret Life Of Pets is doubtful, the reason is Toy Story 4 huge interest in next 2 weeks, and contact with Aladdin and Dark Phoenix and Godzilla : King of The Monsters
I know. MIB international honestly doesn’t look like it has that much wide appeal in the summer especially with stars that aren’t known for attracting wide audiences. Toy story 4 will do fine because it has a wider appeal for families just like spiderman. The secret life of pets will do fine because illumination makes a ton of money over seas even with competition
Godzilla : King of The Monsters is might be added to this list. Reason?
1. Low RT percentage (currently 44%)
2. Opening theaters not as many as Aladdin (perhaps Aladdin visual is better)(spoiler Endgame)
3. 200 million budget (probably bombed if not over 400 million box office, due to Aladdin, Dark Phoenix, and Secret Life of Pets 2 release schedule)
4. Bad release scheduled. You can check the released films in January and February in this year. Not many blockbuster but still withstand
5. Battling against Aladdin, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life of Pets 2, Toy Story 4 isn’t enough for Godzilla : King of The Monsters due to bad scheduled release (Aladdin – Godzilla – Dark Phoenix/Secret Life of Pets 2 – Toy Story 4, in 5 weeks)
Even if Godzilla: King of the Monsters doesn’t do well in America, it will do gangbusters in Asia.
Not good enough for Godzilla : King of The Monsters could battling against Aladdin. And the next week is Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of Pets 2. Due to high interest of Aladdin, Godzilla : King of Monsters still doubtful in US even Asia
Blockbuster with good schedule release in 2019 :
Captain Marvel
Avengers : Endgame
Hobbs & Shaw
IT : Chapter Two
The Lion King
Spider Man : Far From Home
Maleficent : Mistress of Evil
Frozen 2
Blockbuster with bad schedule release in 2019 (might be flopped, even Dumbo and Shazam escaped from bomb territory):
Dumbo – Shazam – Hellboy
All Films in May and June
Jumanji 3
Joker
Terminator : Dark Fate
Your thoughts?
No one cares about Maleficent, so I doubt it’ll be successful. Joker will be fine, not a large budget so it’ll probably break even, and Terminator Dark Fate looks so generic, I doubt many will show up for it.
I’d argue that How to Train Your Dragon: Hidden World had an great schedule.
Wonder how much Booksmart cost, since it might make this list. However, Ellison decided to not disclose the budget, so that doesn’t help. May have been too low.
same here , the only thing i`ve found is ” $10 to 15 millions estimate” … it would be nice if somebody can provide “official” number
It seems that we are in a dark age of comedy. Compared to the late 2000’s, there have been very few remarkable and successful comedy movies. In 2018, the only comedies to break the 100m dollar mark ww were Crazy Rick Asians, Game Night, and Night School. Compare the recent slate of comedy movies to the 2007/08/09 slates…
These 5 blockbuster movies are likely at least one of these 5 are bombed. The reason is bad schedule release and high budget of the movies. There are :
Aladdin (183M budget)(currently 207 million USD box office)
Godzilla : King Of The Monsters (200M budget)(release next week after Aladdin)
Dark Phoenix (200M budget)(release next week after Godzilla : King of The Monsters and release is as same day as Secret Life of Pets 2)
Toy Story 4 (approximately 50-150M budget)(release two weeks later after Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of pets 2)
Secret Life of Pets 2 (approximately 50-100M budget)(release next week after Godzilla : King of The Monsters and release is as same day as Dark Phoenix)
Aladdin can survive if second weekend above Godzilla even with 207 million debut
Toy Story 4 will not bomb… the parent series and studio is too beloved for people to ignore
Hmmmm…………….. Toy Story is not listed and bombed, IF can withstand against Spiderman : Far From Home, and another blockbuster meltdown
You can predict if Godzilla and Dark phoenix FIGHT EACH OTHER yet to box office bomb due to BIG BUDGET
And, Secret Life of Pets 2 can bombed if Toy Story 4 interest more than Secret Life of Pets 2. The reason is :
1. 875 Million of prequel is useless if sequel of Secret Life Of Pets 2 bombed.
2. Toy Story 4 released 2 weeks after Secret Life Of pets 2
Well, seems like “Aladdin” is already going to steer clear of this list. It’s already tracking for a four-day opening north of $100 million, and is over-performing compared to most projections. Considering how its final reported budget is $183 million, it’ll probably have no problem reaching the minimum $400-470 million required to break even at the WW box office.
Yes, but facing film like Godzilla, Dark Phoenix, and Secret Life of Pets 2 isn’t easy as well, because blockbusters are upcoming in this 3 weeks, and it can affect all 4 blockbusters, including Aladdin
207 million USD box office debut might be able to survive in this list. But the upcoming blockbuster can cause a major disaster of bad scheduling. Check at the release schedule in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_film
Movies in 2019 are delayed in 2020 :
Sonic the Hedgehog
Kingsman : The Great Game
Artemis Fowl
Bond 25
Your thoughts?
It looks like Sonic’s fate won’t be determined this year with the film’s delay to 2020. I’m glad they are actually taking things slow, and are trying to win back the fans while not causing any tension for the animation workers.
Wish Aladdin lands up here . . . . Dumbo somehow survived.
To Disney,
Stop ruining my childhood nostalgic movies.
Any chance that you can allow both the old and new viewing options? I kinda preferred the old one where there’s just the poster and name of the movie.
I actually prefer that too, but I’ve run into a problem where quite a few people have dismissed this site because they thought there was no content and it was just a website that LISTS flops by showing the movie poster. So, as derivative as it is, it now says READ FULL ARTICLE. Sigh.
I like the way you have put up the specific details in this format. The prior format wasn’t very informative, but i can understand why you applied this only to this year and last year’s pages – you would have to reformat 20 more pages.
Regarding the specific details, would it be possible to make a new row to display the overall loss suffered by the studio
That’s a great idea Cattus! And I am actually changing the other years, but it’s a slow process.
I understand your viewpoint, it would just be nice if there were options for both formats, just like how Windows allows both icons and lists. It shouldn’t be too difficult to program.
Bad news A Dog’s Journey and The Sun Is Also a Star both got bomb from box office so can you add both of those two?
Detective Pikachu second weekend isn’t bad at all. Although 290 million only 1 week over. Maybe in the third week they can withstand Aladdin and John Wick 3. JW3 debut is 97 million USD.
What was the budget for a Dog’s Journey? ‘Cause it hasn’t made much
It’s probably around the same 18-24 million range of the original
Last weekend, while “John Wick 3” had nearly doubled its 2017 predecessor’s opening weekend and dethroned “Avengers: Endgame” at the top of the domestic box office, two other new releases (“A Dog’s Journey” and “The Sun is Also a Star”) didn’t really fare as well. The “Dog’s Purpose” sequel has opened to about $8 million domestically, below even the numbers for “A Dog’s Way Home,” while “Sun” debuted with a poor $2.6 million in America.
Between these two new arrivals, I’m very sure that “A Dog’s Journey” may be able to steer clear of becoming an outright bomb, due to its overseas numbers so far (but only if it is budgeted slightly less than the first film). On the other hand, “Sun” may not really resonate much with audiences overseas, which means that it may end its box office run as a flop (although it won’t really be added here since its reported budget was only $9 million, and that you do try to avoid adding any flops that cost less than $20 million to produce).
Detective Pikachu in second weekend are below average. This is because John Wick 3 : Parabellum have strong debuts in Friday. It seems Detective Pikachu might be added in this list because of major blockbuster in this weekend. Aladdin is a big threat for Detective Pikachu. Yes because bad schedule release, and John Wick 3 ended Endgame domination. JW3PB take 22 million USD in debut
Its doing fine
They havent updated pikachus foregin box office yet sources say pikachu is at $280m ww on a 150 mil budget
Dumbo was definitely a flop. The budget is definitely over its final profit.
It seems that it is almost safe . . . Disney has to thank the foreign figures for that.
$170mn budget and is around $340mn WW
Honestly, I am so confused how is Disney able to pull off most crappy movies.
Good news though, I have heard that Shazam beat out Dumbo!
I thought Dumbo was considered a box office bomb. They have to pay for promotion and advertising.
Looking of this blockbuster meltdown (while the blockbuster release in week A, and another blockbuster release in A + 1, and another blockbuster A + 2), it might be a disaster for these films in bad scheduling. There are :
Aladdin (next week is Godzilla: King of the Monsters)
Godzilla: King of the Monsters (next week is Dark Phoenix and The Secret Life of Pets 2)
Dark Phoenix (next 2 week is Toy Story 4, same release date like The Secret Life of Pets 2)
The Secret Life of Pets 2 (next 2 week is Toy Story 4, same release date like Dark phoenix)
Jumanji 3 (next week is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker)
Looking for a box office meltdown, it seems Detective Pikachu can added in this list even 63% RT. In that case, if this weekend still underperformed. In facts, while Avengers Endgame in Thursday only got USD 3.4 million, and Pikachu second weekend are dropped. In Thursday it was 2.7 million USD. Despite higher than Alita : Battle Angel, in case of 170 million budget, and now John Wick 3 Parabellum was released, and Aladdin released in next week, it might be a disaster for Detective Pikachu
Your thoughts?
It will do fine
That’s especially when unlike fellow studios Annapurna and Laika, I don’t think STX is run by the child of a billionaire who can more than afford to finance their films (regardless of their budgets or box office performance).
They better hope that the Russo Brothers can pull people in to see 21 Bridges because I doubt that projects such as Playmobil: The Movie are going to be money makers for STX. The biggest successes they have had so far are with the Bad Moms series and The Upside so they definitely need more IPs.
And Upside wasn’t even owned by STX, they just got a distribution fee for that one.
Add the geezer cheerleading comedy “Poms” to this list – only $5M this weekend when it was tracking $8M! STX, the studio behind this bomb (and the animated turkey “UglyDolls” as well) may not survive long if it keeps churning out flop after flop!
Poms looks atrocious and is doing terrible, but I try to keep titles off the site that cost below $20M. But these low rent projects from STX are certainly going to destroy them. And good riddance. To see an alternative indie distributor release safe, corporate junk is a waste of resources. We already have Lionsgate doing that.
I don’t mind STX for the most part. They are a studio that is dedicated to mid-to-low budget flicks that can sometimes have bizarre concepts. The best movies that I feel they have put out so far are Hardcore Henry and The Happytime Murders. Sadly, neither of them really took off despite having unique draws.
I personally think that Annapurna is better at choosing better scripted flicks than STX.
Anyhow both are long waiting for a good hit at box office.
Put Tolkien on Pending List. Budget is $20 million. Only made $2 million so far and is #9 at the box office.
That $20M budget figure has not been substantiated by Fox Searchlight or Chernin Ent. It was filmed in the UK and the BFI has also not reported any budget or rebates issued that would give a clearer picture about what the costs were. I will assume that eventually the actual budget will be listed from the UK gov. And by the way, if anyone knows the production company name that the movie used, plug it into the UK gov site https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/ and the budget mystery will be solved. But it literally could be any name…
It’s okay if lego Movie 2 and Dumbo are stripped from the list. But look in 2017, example Geostorm, 120 million budget, and 220 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. Justice league, 300 million budget, and 657 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. The Great Wall, 150 million budget, and 332 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. Pacific Rim Uprising, 170 million budget, and 290 million box office, STRIPPED IN FLOP LIST. Even Lego Movie 2 is likely worse than Lego Movie. The mummy, 195 million budget, 410 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP.
Can Aladdin, Toy Story 4, Godzilla : King Of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix AVOID ALL THEM? And even Uglydolls, Pikachu and John Wick 3 : Parabellum?
Your thoughts?
Dumbo was a major flop! Why the denial on here? After paying all the marketing and advertising, I doubt it will break even.
Look how many 170-200 million budget movies in this year. Still laughable if did not break even. Such as Aladdin, Godzilla King of The Monsters, Detective Pikachu and Dark Phoenix
“Pikachu” should be able to escape flop territory, as it’s projected to make around $500 million WW over a budget of $150 million.
On the other hand, “Uglydolls” may be a safe lock for this site as despite having a staggered release schedule, I highly doubt any of its upcoming territories will be able to save it from becoming a total flop (it’ll probably tank in China as well, considering how even well-received Pixar films like “Incredibles 2” failed to crack $60 million there).
With 63% of RT, it might break even. But Aladdin and Godzilla : King Of The Monsters may a big threat of Detective Pikachu performance trackdown in box office, if both have at least over 200 million debut incomes
Detective Pikachu debut is well performed in debut. Despite Avengers Endgame still #1, Detective Pikachu might be overtake Dumbo, Shazam, and Alita as well.
170.4 million debut. Higher than Dumbo, Alita and Shazam. Can Detective Pikachu overtake these three?
Uglydolls only 16 million USD incomes in over 1 week.
Your thoughts about Pikachu and Uglydolls?
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how much do you think Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Dora And The Lost City Of Gold, Playmobil The Movie, Gemini Man, Sonic The Hedgehog, The Addams Family, Cats, Masters Of The Universe, and Farmaggedon A Shaun The Sheep movie can make on their opening weekends, domestically and worldwide due to them tracking as flops?
“I liked Gemini Man better when it was rated R and called Looper.” -me from the future weekend when Gemini Man comes out
Long Shot 2019 will flop too, $40 million budget vs $13.6 US + $3.2 international after first week does not look good.
Why Charlize chose to do this film is baffling…..