2019 Box Office Flops
Movies will be added throughout the year
Pending: The Kitchen | Where’d You Go, Bernadette | Dora and the Lost City of Gold
AnnaBudget: $30 million
Financed by: EuropaCorp; OCS; TF1; Canal+; TMC
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Captive StateBudget: $25 million
Financed by: Participant Media
Domestic Box Office: $5,958,315
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Cold PursuitBudget: $60 million
Financed by: StudioCanal
Domestic Box Office: $32,138,862
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Dark PhoenixBudget: $200 million
Financed by: FOX; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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HellboyBudget: $50 million
Financed by: Millennium Films
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Long ShotBudget: $40 million
Financed by: Lionsgate
Domestic Box Office: $30,316,271
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Missing LinkBudget: $100 million (estimated)
Financed by: Laika
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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ReplicasBudget: N/A
Financed by: Riverstone Pictures; Remstar Studios
Domestic Box Office: $4,046,429
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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SerenityBudget: $25 million
Financed by: IM Global
Domestic Box Office: $8,543,442
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The Kid Who Would Be KingBudget: $59 million
Financed by: FOX; Working Title; TSG Entertainment
Domestic Box Office: $16,790,790
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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The Professor and the MadmanBudget: $26.3 million
Financed by: Voltage Pictures; Fábrica de Cine; Fís Éireann/Screen Ireland
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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UglyDollsBudget: $53 million
Financed by: STX; Alibaba Pictures
Domestic Box Office: Still in release
Overseas Box Office: Still in release
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Unless Angel Has Fallen becomes a surprise hit overseas, I fully expect it to show up on this list. It cost $80 million to make, making it the most expensive in the Fallen series, but it is also expected to have the lowest opening in the series.
Can you add Stuber, A Dog’s Journey and Blinded by the Light on the list?
According to Deadline, Where’d You Go, Bernadette has a budget north of $20 million and is currently flopping. Can you add it to the pending list?
added to pending.
You probably should add Angry Birds 2 too
Not exactly The Angry Birds Movie 2 is underperforming just like Rocketman and Yesterday.
Can IT : Chapter Two become another most successful horror movie in this year?
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August 2019 review :
Dora and the Lost City Of Gold seems underperformed. Even Angry Birds 2 too. Despite their both gain higher rating in Rotten Tomatoes, these boths are underperformed. After one week release, Dora ATLCOG only got 44 million USD, despite released in nationwide. Angry Birds 2 got just 35 million USD. Hobbs & Shaw still under performed too despite break even. This is the factor of The Lion King still persistent, and they manage #1 – #3 in first months.
Your thoughts?
If a movie manages to break even, it doesn’t go on this site. This list is for “bombs”–movies that actually lose money. So Hobbs and Shaw wouldn’t be listed here.
I think The Angry Birds Movie 2 is a definite contender for the list, it has a budget of 65 million and is only expected to make 8.7 million on it’s OW. I smell a turkey here (no pun intended).
The Art of Racing in the Rain, Dora and the Lost City of Gold, and Where’d You Go Bernadette all deserve pending spots on this list.
I agree
Me too
I think you should add ‘The Art of Racing in the Rain,’ ‘Dora the Explorer,’ ‘Angry Birds Movie 2,’ and ‘Brian Banks’ to the pending list. They are all underperforming and aren’t making much money. ‘Angry Birds’ only made 4 million domestically against a 65 million budget. With even more releases coming, I don’t think they will make much more money. However, I don’t think you really need to add ‘Brian Banks’ if you don’t want to, because it has a small budget.
I think these movies underperformed because they were too many released at once. Nobody wants to see all these movies at the same time, even if it is summer.
Nonsense, The Angry Birds Movie 2 didn’t bomb box office, but it going to hit 20 million.
Now only 12-8 million $ opening
Sad news. Angry Birds 2 earned 16 million over six days-10 million over the weekend, and placed #4 over Good Boys which, in my book, may be the Biggest Upset in years!!!
You were wrong about Once upon a Time … in Hollywood ( 180 million worldwide now and it just started in the rest of the world ).
You were wrong about Godzilla.
You were wrong about Yesterday ( 128+ Million worldwide against a 26 million budget is a HUUUGE succes ).
And last but not least…. man were you wrong about Spiderman 🙂
If you think last weekend is too much (Here to you. Art of Racing in the Rain) this weekend is much more of the same! Angry Birds 2 getting a head start yesterday, Good Boys is nothing to write about-R rating and all,-unless they pull a Sausage Party on them, 47 Meters Down 2 and Blinded By the Light is up in the air.
Dylan W, what movies do you think will bomb in 2020 from month to month?
Can we add Dora and the Lost City of Gold it’s really bomb from Box Office?
As what you heard earlier, the budget of the film is only $49 million. Considering how it’s projected to make as much as “Wonder Park” domestically, “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” won’t bomb unless it completely collapses overseas, especially when its budget is only half the amount it cost to produce the aforementioned bomb.
Basically, even with a projected domestic finish of $50-60 million and a possible 50/50 domestic/overseas split, “Dora” will still make over double its budget (which may likely allow it to break even after ancillaries and marketing costs are factored in).
I’m pretty sure that “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” may just escape from being a bomb. Considering Dora, as a cartoon series being well known will have more audiences in asian market driving to theaters.
No way, I will not have Dora the Explorer return to TV screens for new seasons.
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Your thoughts?
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It seems Hobbs & Shaw are still underperformed within 332 million USD after 11 day release due to The Lion King interest still high and their incomes continuously. But I think Hobbs & Shaw might break even at least 500 million USD incomes
Hobbs and Shaw has yet to open in China, and the Fast and Furious series is HUGE over there. I see no reason it can’t make at least $200 million there alone.
Good news Dora and the Lost City of Gold got a box-office bomb and destroyed by Scary Stories and Hobbs and Shaw.
Nonsense, 17M opening weekend wil end in 55M in the US.
Rest of the world 120M maybe even more depending on Latin countries means it will have a global tally of 175M against a 49M budget.
Get you numbers right!
Let we see until 2nd or 3rd week how much Dora and the Lost City Of Gold gains. If they did not reaching 100 million USD in that case, it means flop
The Kitchen cost $37 million and will struggle to hit $15 million as a total. Embarrassing for Melissa Mccarthy
Based on a soon-to-be-out-of-print Vertigo graphic novel (Since DC is shutting down that imprint), 20% on Rotten Tomatoes, “All Sesame and No Street” (If you placed The Happytime Murders into this), no wonder it’s flopped!!!
Small openings for all of the August 9 movies. Too many of them came out at the same time.
Is anyone predicting sny August flops?
I meant any
I can smell The Kitchen-All Seasme No Street!!!
Looks like it’s flat-out bombing with an opening day of $1.8M.
Some people think Rotten Tomatoes is a fake rate, and claims paid by Marvel fans. Some people think Audience Score is truth, Rotten Tomatoes are a fake rate. Even biggest movies like Captain marvel, has low rate in Audience Score
Ok?
Reviews for Dora are out, and they are actually better than expected… The RT Score is 78% based on 9 reviews, with an average rating of 6.55/10
This is bad, it’s going to brainwash more people and cancel PAW Patrol! Hurry, tell Paramount Players to pull the public advertising!
Has anyone found a budget for Dora ATLCOG?
I’m predicting around 50 or 60 million
According to Deadline, the production budget for “Dora and the Lost City of Gold” was reported to be about $49 million.
Co-financed with Media Rights Capital and Walden Media, if that’s worth pointing out.
I think you should at least add ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ to the pending list. The budget was 90 million and it only has made 55 million so far. It isn’t going to make much more once ‘Hobbs and Shaw’ hits theatres.
Despite with higher rates in Rotten Tomatoes, maybe this films seems underperformed, although in CinemaScore only got B, and PostTrak just 59%. Metacritic 85%, comparing to The Lion King, they got A in CinemaScore, even in Rotten Tomatoes are lower (53%)
Hobbs & Shaw is going for a totally different audience than Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Also, the reason why it has only made $55 million is because it hasn’t been released outside of the U.S. yet. I believe that other countries will start receiving it in a couple of weeks.
Week 3 and it made back it’s production budget domestically.
Nonsense!
It will make 120M in the US and I predict 150M in the rest of the world for a total cume of 270M.
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Sorry pal, you have more than one person picking on you.
This November, watch the enjoyable sight of Arctic Dogs and Playmobil being completely destroyed by Frozen II.
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“Why are you typing random words and phrases that have nothing to do with the topic at hand? This website exists to discuss box office bombs, and nothing you type contributes to the discussion in a meaningful way.
What you are doing is more or less trolling… you are trying to disrupt the flow of conversation with off topic comments. If you want to type nonsensical gibberish, do it in a website dedicated to nonsensical gibberish. If such a website doesn’t exist, create one. You may think that what you are doing is adorable, but in reality, it is really annoying
Basically, please don’t type random shit on a website not dedicated to random shit”. Look in Tracey Mills reply it’s NOT my comment!
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If this New York Times article is to be believed, “Stuber” could be on the pending list. Its reported budget is $25 million.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/movies/stuber-spider-man-far-from-home-box-office.html
“Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”, with 90 million USD budget, and now currently 40 million USD, with Rotten Tomatoes 84%. Can they break even? Need to get at least 200 million USD to break even. CinemaScore “B”, Metacritic 85%
In August and September does not have so much blockbusters. Only Hobbs & Shaw, IT Chapter Two and The Lion King are likely to hit. I’m doubtful several animated films (Angry Birds 2, Abominable, and Playmobil : The Movie), with good soundtrack such as Uglydolls and Wonder Park. Even Dora and the Lost City Of Gold is doubtful for hit. I think in the next week is a big battle for Hobbs & Shaw vs The Lion King. The Lion King is now close to 1 billion USD.
If Dora and the Lost City of Gold does successful, it puts Dora the Explorer back on TV, and that’s not good.
All delayed films in 2019 and 2020 that pushed to 2020 and 2021 and/or force move to 2019:
Fantastic Beast 3
Bond 25
The Kingsman
Sonic the Hedgehog
Artemis Fowl
Avatar 2
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil
Your thoughts?
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Why are you typing random words and phrases that have nothing to do with the topic at hand? This website exists to discuss box office bombs, and nothing you type contributes to the discussion in a meaningful way.
What you are doing is more or less trolling… you are trying to disrupt the flow of conversation with off topic comments. If you want to type nonsensical gibberish, do it in a website dedicated to nonsensical gibberish. If such a website doesn’t exist, create one. You may think that what you are doing is adorable, but in reality, it is really annoying
Basically, please don’t type random shit on a website not dedicated to random shit
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Please explain how these phrases help ‘update the site’.
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“Anna” has just tanked in France, the home country of Luc Besson. It’s only made the equivalent of $3 million in the 2 weeks it has been released there, which will only add to the money loss that EuropaCorp will have to take on it in the end (its performance elsewhere, including North America, has also been very dismal so far).
The Lion King got 713 million USD just in one weeks. Spider Man : Far From Home reach 1 billion USD. Aladdin are close to 1 billion USD. Toy Story 4 are 868 million USD. Look how Disney and MCU films in this year are dominating, except Dumbo. Only 1 DCEU. Despite break even, they did not gross too much. According to critics, these 4 films are better than Avengers : Endgame, perhaps. I’m sure this year is the glory days of Disney and Marvel.
Can Frozen 2, Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil, Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker, Jumanji : The Next Level, IT Chapter Two, Terminator : Dark Fate, Joker are break even?
Your thoughts?
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I fear Dora and the Lost City of Gold will do successful and gross the same as either of the two Spongebob movies. So, you have got to warn everybody, not to watch the movie.
Although in this 3 months doesn’t have too much blockbusters, I think Hobbs & Shaw, IT Chapter Two, The Lion King are probably leading the box office as well. You can look in January and February movies in this year. Doesn’t have too much blockbusters. Only Alita : Battle Angel and HTTYDTHW are dominating. October seems doesn’t look too much. Joker, Terminator : Dark Fate and Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil are likely to be hit due to October hasn’t many blockbusters, and With great schedule while Frozen 2 release are 27th November 2019 worldwide.
Your thoughts?
It seems this year is the glorious year for Disney Live Action (except Dumbo), Pixar, and Marvel Cinematic Universe. Probably The Lion King, Aladdin, Toy Story 4, Spider Man : Far From Home are likely to going 1 billion USD.
Frozen 2 probably make it. Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil my prediction are break even, i think 850 million USD. Hobbs & Shaw probably, due to rise of Fast & Furious franchise incomes since Furious 7.
Currently The Lion King are 531 million USD. Aladdin close to 1 billion USD, and even Spider Man : Far From Home too.
Your thoughts?
Hobbs and Shaw is not a Disney movie.
Avengers Endgame is the number one highest grossing movie ever! It beat Avatar!
The biggest bomb of 2019, one of the worst musical adaptations ever, and a major Razzie contender, perhaps winning almost all of them, will be “Cats”, judging by the savage criticism that greeted its first trailer…It will certainly land on this list, given that “The Rise of Skywalker” is its competition! (Shades of Warner Bros. releasing the Eastwood dud “Pink Cadillac” the same week as “Last Crusade”!) Also, the remake of “West Side Story” may land on the Bomb Report list, given that it’s being released the same week! Why Spielberg decided to remake the 1961 classic is beyond me…
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What do you think of the new Dora the Explorer film’s chances? My children loved her when they were small, but the youngest is a tween. She told me that she doesn’t want to see it.
That movie looks too cringey. I saw a trailer for it attached to Toy Story 4 when I saw it with my best friend and his father last week.
Do not watch Dora and the Lost City of Gold, it will start Dora all over again, and cancel PAW Patrol.
“Stuber” had a production budget of $16 million according to Wikipedia and an advertising spend of at least $5 million so to just break even it needs $21 million. It opened wide on July 12 and so far it has grossed $8 million in the USA and $3 million elsewhere. Things don’t look good for it right now, you may went to put it on the Pending list with Anna.
However, I heard that in most cases, BombReport would only include box-office bombs that cost at least $20 million to produce. Therefore, even if “Stuber” might end up as a flop in the very end, I won’t be surprised if it didn’t end up contending for this site either (much like what happened to other low-budgeted flops such as “Miss Bala” and “Poms”).
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Although The Lion King in Rotten Tomatoes are only 59%, within 250 million budget. Can they break even? Or ended like Dumbo?
It’s the Monday before Opening Night, and, it’s now stands at 62%.
Meanwhile, it’s seems that one of those Weinstein leftovers, called The Current War, can’t settled down on a release date! It’s supported to be out November 2007, then sometime in 3008, then in August, then in October, now it’s being dated for this weekend!!! Let’s mourned those Weinstein while we can!!! (I hope!!!)
Spider Man : Far From Home soars up to 847 million USD. Toy Story 4 771 million USD. Aladdin 960 million USD. Endgame close to 2,780 billion USD. Can The Lion King become succeed like Aladdin? Aladdin are close to 1 billion USD, and Endgame close to break Titanic record. Spider Man : Far From Home are the first Spiderman Franchise to manage #1 in all Spiderman movies.
With The Lion King budget is 250 million USD, more than Aladdin (183 million USD), and Far From Home, even Far From Home CGI was amazing within only 160 million USD. And even higher than Dead Man Tell No Tales in 2017 (230 million USD).
Here’s condition of incomes in last week.
Endgame close to break Avatar Record.
Have you ever heard of S&P Global Market Intelligence? They have posted a couple of box office comps (https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/godzillas-monstrous-shadow-to-loom-large-over-aladdins-lamp-at-box-office for example). How trustworthy should these numbers be?
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Due to blockbusterless in July – September, this page is seems likely quiet. WIth only The Lion King, Hobbs & Shaw & IT : Chapter Two are the blockbusters only hopes. Just remind NONE OF THIS YEAR FILMS ARE HOLD #1 OVER 3 WEEKS. All are withstand only 3 weeks
Spider Man : Far From Home soars up to 603 million USD. It seems this is highest income of Spider Man franchise.
Just reminder, none of all movies in this year are still hold #1 in over 4 weeks. All are only 3 weeks #1.
Can The Lion King break Spider Man : Far From Home record? Or just underperform like Dumbo? With the help of Beyonce – Spirit new songs from The Lion King
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There are many animated are yet to be released this year. There are :
Abominable, The Addams Family, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun The Sheep : Farmaggeddon, Frozen 2, HTTYDTHW, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, The Secret Life Of Pets 2, Spies In Disguise, Toy Story 4, UglyDolls, Wonder Park.
But ONLY 2 of these list are hit in this year. (HTTYDTHW, Toy Story 4)
Most of thems are flops or mid-table films. (UglyDolls, Wonder Park, Missing Link, The Lego Movie 2, The Secret Life Of Pets 2)
Comparing in 2018, there are 4 animated films are above 500 million USD.
Your thoughts?
Updated 8th July box office based on Indonesia Standard Time :
Spider Man : Far From Home : 580 million USD
Toy Story 4 : 649 million USD
Aladdin : 921 million USD
Men In Black : International : 244 million USD
Secret Life Of Pets 2 : 262 million USD
John Wick 3 : 311 million USD
Meanwhile, Dark Phoenix stuck in 245 million USD due to low rate and negative comments, and Godzilla : King Of The Monsters are stuck in 378 million USD
Your thoughts? Only 2 animated films are hit in this year.
According to the article Triple Frontier was a flop for Netflix. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/triple-frontier-flop-netflix-cuts-back-spending-1202155925/
Would it count for a page?
Spider Man : Far From Home debut is 39 million. And Toy Story 4 still #2. Only two animated films are Hit, otherwise flops or underperformed. Endgame still rocks in #8. Your thoughts?
Let’s look at the rest of the year:
Angry Birds 2: I think kids are playing Fortnite on their phones more than Angry Birds.
Playmobil: Even Lego 2 didn’t do that well, so what gives this the upperhand?
Abominable: Maybe in China it will be a hit, but doubtful in States despite not much competition.
The Addams Family: Going against Maleficent 2, they’ll destroy each other.
Artic Dogs: Yeah, looking at the trailer, all I can think of is Norm of the North.
Frozen 2: Probably won’t make as much as the first, but it’ll still do very well.
Shaun the Sheep 2: Sorry Aardman, but stop-motion is dead
Spies in Disguise: Yeah, with Jumanji 2 and Star Wars XI, I doubt it will have a chance.
Yeah, besides Frozen 2, that’s about it for animated hits in 2019.
The ONLY animated films coming out during the rest of the year that I’m expecting to do AT LEAST decent business are “Spies in Disguise” and ESPECIALLY “Frozen 2”. In fact, for the latter film(“Frozen 2”), I’m still expecting it to be a HUGE HIT at the box office.
“Ferdinand” was still able to make a decent profit two years ago, even though it had to compete with “Star Wars: The Last Jedi”, “Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle”, and “The Greatest Showman”. I expect the same for the former film(“Spies in Disguise”). It will have to compete with “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” and “Jumanji: The Next Level”, but I do think it does have the chance to do good numbers at the box office. Especially with it’s star power(Will Smith(who already has had a huge hit this year with the “Aladdin” remake) and Tom Holland(who is just coming off of “Avengers: Endgame” and “Spider-Man: Far From Home”).
(The fact that both “Ferdinand” and “Spies in Disguise” both come from Blue Sky and Fox(even though Disney is distributing it because of it’s acquisition) does help.)
Other than those two films(“Frozen 2” and “Spies in Disguise”), I don’t see the remaining animated films coming out that year doing all that well. Especially since with the exception of “How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World” and “Toy Story 4”, animated films really haven’t done well at all this year.
Here are the animated film list are released in this year :
Abominable, The Addams Family, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun The Sheep : Farmaggeddon, Frozen 2, HTTYDTHW, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, The Secret Life Of Pets 2, Spies In Disguise, Toy Story 4, UglyDolls, Wonder Park.
Just remind, only 2 animated films are hit in this year. (HTTYDTHW and Toy Story 4). Otherwise are flops even the films are mid table. Can Frozen 2 avoid animated curse in this year?
There’s just too many movies to be seen. Most are sequels; it’s overwhelming. There isn’t enough room for each movie to be a hit. Hollywood needs to cool it down.
The incomes are affect everything.
First, release date. If it is bad, like May – June, they are likely underperformed
Second, audience interest and plot twist. If too many plot holes and negative comments, probably might be bombed
Third, quality of films, like CGI, Voice Actors, costumes, and others. Some films are destroy most talented actor and/or actress
Fourth, persistent of incomes. You can look Aladdin and Venom are rocks even underperformed.
I agree. There are way too many movies coming out this summer. People can’t see all of them!
Meanwhile Aladdin still well performed within 880 million box office until now. It seems #1 – #4 likely to be Disney films. Even it is MCU in highest grossing movies in 2019
According to Box Office Bozo says :
“The release schedule during the same period was just as crowded in 2014 (Amazing Spiderman 2, Days of the Future Past, Maleficent, Godzilla,Transformers 4). All of the movies earned more than 500 million dollars worldwide”
Yes because they don’t have a bad schedule unlike this year.
Comparing the release schedule in that list is different against this year.
2014 : (The Amazing Spiderman 2 (31st March), X-Men : Days of the Future Past (10th May), Maleficent (28th May), Godzilla (8th May),Transformers : Age Of Extinction (19th June))
2014 doesn’t look bad because great schedule release, within every week blockbusters. and Blockbusters vs Blockbusters can affect everything.
2019 : (John Wick 3 : Parabellum (17th May), Aladdin : (24th May), Godzilla : King Of The Monsters (31st May), Dark Phoenix (7th June), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (7th June), Men In Black : International (14th June), Toy Story 4 (21st June), Annabelle Comes Home (26th June), Spider Man : Far From Home (2nd July))
See, the scheduling affect everything. 2014 are persistent but 2019 are too much competitions. In 2014 are 500 million above because it hasn’t bad schedule. In 2019, ONLY 2 ARE SURVIVED RIGHT NOW (Aladdin and Toy Story 4). And it’s from Disney. otherwise are Disaster or Underperformed
Meanwhile, Toy Story 4 (520 million USD) finally breaking the curse of the animation film in this year. By take down HTTYDTHW (519 million USD)
Anna is a movie about smart people for dumb people. A bad movie that deserves to be a bomb.
I don’t think Anna might be hit. But you can look other major blockbusters like The Lion King. I don’t believe The Lion King might be successor as Aladdin.
In the first two months in new season in 2019/2020, there isn’t so much blockbusters. Only The Lion King and Hobbs & Shaw are most wanted blockbusters
Doubtful movies are yet to be hit (Upcoming July – August) :
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Dora And The Lost City Of Gold
Farmaggeddon : A Shaun The Sheep
The Angry Birds Movie 2
Toy Story 4 (496 million USD) are closing to take down HTTYDTHW (519 million USD). But can they survive against Spider Man : Far From Home? With presale of Spider Man : Far From Home are sold out amongst in over the world?
Avengers Endgame still rocks above John Wick : Chapter 3 – Parabellum, Godzilla : King of the Monsters, and Dark phoenix in this weekend (#7). Your thoughts? the signal about Endgame re-release. Need 27 million to destroy Avatar legacy
And even Dumbo still #12. I think this year is golden year of Disney / Pixar / MCU era. Look how Disney films can persistent in this year. Can The Lion King become another successful Disney films? Or just “mid-table” films like Dumbo? Before the next 2 weeks release of Hobbs & Shaw?
I think The Lion King is going to be king at the box office.
Only 6 Movies so far have crossed the $500m threshold this year. Of the six movies, Aladdin and The Wandering Earth were not Event Films. I think it just so happened that Disney is releasing a large number of ‘Must See’ movies, while other studios are not. Alita could have crossed 500m had domestic numbers been stronger, while it is unknown how Godzilla 2 and Detective Pikachu will perform
In Terms of Domestic Box office, Us and John Wick 3 are also king
Forgetting about Alita, Godzilla 2 and Detective Pikachu. The schedule release is also affect all box office performance. If too many blockbusters, such as May and June, it is completely worst due too many competition. You can look how Aladdin still close to 900 million USD within bad schedule release, and even Toy Story 4 too. Toy Story 4 still underperform this week. Reason? Spider Man : Far From Home release date. But still can take down HTTYDTHW
The release schedule during the same period was just as crowded in 2014 (Amazing Spiderman 2, Days of the Future Past, Maleficent, Godzilla,Transformers 4). All of the movies earned more than 500 million dollars worldwide
Updated 1st July Box Office income based on Indonesia Standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (303 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (874 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (376 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (244 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (223 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (219 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (496 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (76 million USD)
Your thoughts?
First:
Does anyone think Hollywood is releasing too many movies this summer? There are so many movies that are coming soon; ‘SpiderMan: Far From Home,’ ‘Dora and the Lost City of Gold,’ ‘Angry Birds 2,’ ‘Hobbs and Shaw,’ ‘Midsommar,’ ‘The Lion King,’ ‘Crawl,’ ‘Playmobil Movie,’ and so much more. These are all big blockbusters and having too many this summer, people aren’t going to be able to watch all of them and a lot of them are going to do poorly. Your thoughts?
Second:
‘Yesterday’ movie isn’t doing well either. I’m not sure if it can make much more with ‘Spiderman: Far From Home’ coming into theatres soon. Your thoughts? Do you think it should be pending?
Lastly:
Do you think ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’ is going to steal ‘Toy Story Four’ audience? The film hasn’t made quite as much money as the third did, and releasing the Spiderman movie so close to it is definitely going to kill it, plus ‘Annabelle,’ ‘Yesterday,’ ‘Child’s Play,’ and more. Is Disney stealing their own audience?
Again, your thoughts?
By the way did anyone see the Avengers Endgame rerelease?
I agree your opinion. First, Spider-Man : Far From Home is likely biggest hit after Aladdin. But I’m doubtful about The Lion King. The reason is, bad schedule release due to in next week Hobbs & Shaw. Hoobs & Shaw trailer is completely amazing, and Hobbs & Shaw even could withstand #1 in over 3 weeks. Just remind NO BLOCKBUSTERS are #1 in over 3 weeks. Only 3 weeks withstand due to major blockbuster competition. I think The Lion King might manage over 500 million USD. You can look how Aladdin still become the next Venom 2018, underperformed but still persistent. And now Aladdin is 874 million USD.
Second, Yesterday is now 24 million USD. I think they might manage 100 million USD.
Third, Yes. The bad scheduling for Toy Story 4, Annabelle Comes Home, and Child’s Play might affect of 3 films, because Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse release is great, due to not too much blockbusters in July, only The Lion King. I think this year is worst release date ever. You can check the schedule of blockbusters. Completely shit. Toy Story 4 can only #1 in 2 weeks because Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse release, and mostly the presale of Spider Man : Into The Spider Verse in all world are 90% full in amongst of all theaters in world.
I think Disney is stealing audience from themselves; releasing Toy Story 4 so close to Spider-Man: Far From Home is really going to take the Toy Story 4 Audience.
By the way, Shaft got released internationally on June 28th. 30-35 million budget and only a 17.4 gross. It’s definitely flopping. I think you should at least put it on pending.
Shaft definitely did lousy, but it was sold off to Netflix in most markets, so I’m leaving it off.
Oh, okay.
Tracking Box Office update 29th June 2019 based on Indonesia standard Time.
Annabelle Comes Home is currently 23 million USD. Child’s Play and Rocketman still above 2 big budget within 200 million USD, there are Godzilla : King Of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix. Aladdin still in top 3 despite over 1 month release. I’m doubtful Toy Story 4 are become 2nd most success animation movies, even with 302 million box office, isn’t good enough and within Spider Man : Far From Home world release in 2nd July, that cause major meltdown blockbuster. Annabelle Comes Home might be hold to 200 million USD. Meanwhile, MIB International and Secret Life Of Pets 2 are slow gross, due too much competition blockbuster since 17th May 2019. If Toy Story 4 cannot defeat and take down HTTYDTHW, Toy Story 4 are ended like other 5 animation film.
Your thoughts?
In my opinion, Aladdin will be box office king at least for children’s films. I think too many films were released close together, and they were hurt at the box office. Too much competition like you stated.
With a $182 Million or so worldwide revenue heading into its third weekend & production cost of $110 Million is definitely a disappointment though I guess it avoided being an official bomb.
What about Booksmart? It’s only made 20M and they had to have spent at least that on marketing alone.
the movie cost 6 million alone and most of the marketing was purely digital, so they didn’t spend that much.
not really a loss for annapurna
NOBODY knows how much the film cost. 6 million is a LIE and you know it Juan Manuel. Annapurana has refused to release the info. You know what that means…
i.e. BOOKSMART WAS/IS A FLOP~!
Looking for Wednesday Box Office, Annabelle Comes Home is in #2 at debut. I think Annabelle debut isn’t as bad as Dark Phoenix. Going through like JW3 are amazing. Meanwhile, John Wick 3 Parabellum still above Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark phoenix. Aladdin is still rocking in #3 in Wednesday. Annabelle Comes Home debut is 7 million USD. Your thoughts?
It seems BOM has fixing some bugs, including Dumbo income errors, and now back to 350 million USD. TS4 still rocks in 258 million USD. I wonder Annabelle Comes Home can soar up to 250 million USD even within Spider Man : Far From Home
Well I believe Toy Story 4 could take down HTTYDTHW, but within Spider Man : Far From Home released in next 2 weeks, it might affect Toy Story 4, and if they underperformed again, they are ended like Godzilla King of The Monsters. Still only HTTYDTHW are the one and only animated films are success. Otherwise are flops or underperformed
Why isnt Dumbo on this list? Its budget (without P&A) is 170 million while it has made only 345 million global. Its a bomb.
Well, i don’t know. But You can imagine, the Dumbo box office original is 350 million USD, but now stripped to 280 million USD. How could they lost 70 million box office USD in next days? Is that Box office Mojo mistakes? Or just Marketing Adjustment? Or just financial crisis?
Mojo is full of errors. It’s just a box office archive, they do not form the box office grosses. Check ComScore for actual reporting.
Mojo is fixed some bugs in that websites
Mojo has been my go to source for box office financials for years but yes from now on I’ll go to ComScore first. Wow. Very impressed.
Thanks for your post. I really was wondering if Dumbo was a financial failure too.
Ronny why are you out of remedial class? Shuddup
I just checked in BOM, I was surprised Dumbo box office stripped 70 millions. Originally was 350 million USD, but now it becomes 280 million USD.
And another Updated 25th June based on Indonesia standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (289 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (813 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (366 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (232 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (191 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (182 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (244 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
Thanks for the update. I appreciate you posting more information about Dumbo.
Even “Toy Story 4” has under-performed at the box office, although it was box office king by a country mile..Have audiences finally had enough of cookie cutter, stale franchise movies? I think people want fresh,original films with realistic stories and characters; the big studios haven’t made too many of those this year!
Well, we all know that Pixar will be mainly giving us original films for the near future, considering how “Toy Story 4” was confirmed to be their last sequel for a while. As long as “Onward” and “Soul” can make big bank rather than ending up on this site like “The Good Dinosaur,” audiences will be certain to get their promised share of original IPs from Pixar and its talented crew.
Even within 302 million box office within Toy Story 4, I’m doubtful if Toy Story can be success like HTTYDTHW. First, Annabelle Comes home and Spider Man : Into the Spider Verse release date contact. Second, the presale of Spider Man : Into the Spider Verse, 85% might be sold out over world territory. Third, facing against : John Wick 3 : Parabellum, Aladdin, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, MIB International, The Secret Of Life Pets 2, even most of them are underperform, and Toy Story 4 still #1, it isn’t good enough in next week. Fourth, many animated films are doomed in this years. None of them above 200 million, except HTTYDTHW
May we NOW mourn the loss of both EuropaCorp and Luc Besson’s sexual assaults (Haven’t you heard of that???), as Anna made 3.5 million U. S. on a reported $30 million budget and placed 11th at this weekend’s box office report!!! At least Lionsgate still enjoying the profit of Keanu Reeves’ John Wick 3 over that unknown girl’s one!!!
Updated 24th June based on Indonesia standard Time :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (289 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (810 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (349 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (232 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (194 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (182 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (238 million USD)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
I’m doubtful if The Lion King become 3rd most Disney and/or Pixar hit movies in this year. Due to next 2 weeks, Hobbs & Shaw are released, and many people are likely to attract that films. Even Aladdin is still survive with amongst of blockbusters which released in May and June despite underperformed but still manage in #3 in this weekend due to strong worldwide. And now Aladdin are 810 million USD. Can The Lion King becomes another Disney Live Action profit, or just ended like Dumbo?
Toy Story 4 in 3 days can take down (238 million USD) :
A. Dark phoenix (232 million USD), Secret Life of Pets 2 (194 million USD) in over 2 weeks
B. Men In Black : International (182 million USD) in over 1 weeks
I think Dark phoenix are the lowest grossing in X Men franchise. I’m learn from films like Pirates Of The Carribean : Dead Men Tell No Tales, and Transformers : The Dark Knight, even they are underperformed in 2017, but still manage to avoid box office bombs. I think Dark Phoenix are ended like Pirates Of The Carribean : Dead Men Tell No Tales (2nd lowest income POTC series, budget lower than On Stranger Tides, the most expensive budgets ever), and Transformers : The Dark Knight (lowest income Transformers series)
If we looking a lot of blockbusters in this year and fixed release date, only Hobbs & Shaw have best schedule, due to August and September haven’t much blockbusters. Only IT Chapter Two in September are likely to hit, and my prediction Hobbs & Shaw will be first film to get #1 in over 4 consecutive weeks. Terminator : Dark Fate, Frozen 2, IT : Chapter Two, Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker release schedule aren’t as bad as May and June blockbusters. Your thoughts?
Comparing to Aladdin, Toy Story 4 are likely to succeed Aladdin (currently 810 million USD)
Debut : Aladdin 91 million USD, Toy Story 4 118 million USD (USA), currently 238 million USD, and now Aladdin still above Men in Black International, Godzilla King of the Monsters, Dark Phoenix, John Wick 3 and The Secret Of Life Pets 2 in this weekend (#3). And still surpass Men in Black International, Dark Phoenix, The Secret Of Life Pets 2. No films are still #1 weekend over 4 weeks. Only 3 weeks long last.
‘Anna’ is the worst box office opening of Luc Besson’s career, collecting. $ 3.5M.Just horrible.
And, that just the US release!!!
Pending movies: ANNA,SHAFT,LATE NIGHT.
Yeah
Amazon just spent too much money buying Late Night when it was always more of a niche idea. A late show writing room does nothing for the majority of moviegoers
Absoultely concur with you.
It seems Toy story 4 likely to become 2nd most hit after HTTYDTHW despite HTTYDTHW early release in world. My prediction after 3 days Toy story 4 might be approximately 250-350 million box office incomes. With an amazing debut 47 million USD in USA. Comparing to Aladdin debut, Toy story 4 incomes higher than Aladdin even still well performed
I think you are probably right about that.
Spies in Disguise, which released by Fox/Disney, may hurt it, largely due to Disney’s own release of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, getting the talk of the Holiday releases, much the same way that Ferdnad did when it’s competing against The Force Awakens!!!!
“Ferdinand” actually did do decently at the box office, even with all the competition it had(“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”, “Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle”, and “The Greatest Showman”(the latter also coming from Fox)(and the first and third films also being currently owned by Disney, just like this film)). Yes, it wasn’t that big of a success(making almost 300 million dollars on a 110 million dollar budget), but it was able to hold on despite that. I’m sure that “Spies In Disguise” will do perfectly fine against “Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker” and “Jumanji: The Next Chapter”, even though the latter two films(especially “The Rise Of Skywalker”) will destroy it at the box office.
Essentially, there seemed to be plenty of room for all those films to thrive concurrently in December, even when it initially appeared as though they would probably cannibalize each other.
And in terms of “Ferdinand,” it was partially able to thrive because it provided an animated counter-programming option for families with kids too young to watch “The Last Jedi” or “Jumanji” (both PG-13 blockbusters), and weren’t into live-action musicals like “The Greatest Showman.” That factor, especially when combined with the idea that the holiday season tends to be one of the major popular movie-going times of the year, had allowed the smaller Blue Sky toon to fare well at the box office without getting crushed by its surrounding competition, rather than getting destroyed by some larger films like what happened to “Uglydolls” back in May.
I’m doubtful if Jumanji 3 is become massive hit, due to next week is Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker released, and Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker might overtake Captain Marvel if debuts are well and get positive review from critics
Toy Story 4 have similar budget to Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix. Predicted 165 million box office of 3 days opening. Your thoughts?
Let’s track the box office incomes currently ;
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (278 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (738 million USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (346 million USD)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (208 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (169 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (115 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (budget is similar to Godzilla : King of the Monsters & Dark Phoenix)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
Even toy story 4 is underperforming 20 mil below expectations
It might pick up more business from word of mouth. I took my daughter to see it yesterday, and it was really very nicely done.
It seems Annabelle Comes Home could take down some most disappointed blockbuster in next weekend. Even this film is horror-thrilled, maybe Annabelle Comes Home can persist like John Wick 3. Just let we see in the end of June. Just remind Spider Man : Far From Home (released in 2nd of July) could affect amongst of May-June blockbusters. Oh, remind MIB International is only 115 million USD after initial first week. Is it a meltdown of blockbusters?
MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL
Yes, right here at the top.
This movie could have added another $40mn ~ $50mn if not for its below par marketing.
As discussed ad nauseum here and confirmed by Deadline, MIB International thanks to responsible budgeting, its domestic OW narrowly surpassing expectations at $30.03M, and most importantly strong international box office revenues, will be absent from the list here (and will go past breakeven). After ancillaries kick in… Sony will likely net a small profit. However, I’m with you on needing better marketing.
Wonder Park, UglyDolls, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, Secret Life Of pets 2 are the victim of cursed animation films in this year due to low box office. None of these 5 are above 200 million USD.
Can other animation films like Toy Story 4, The Angry Birds Movie 2, A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmagedddon, Frozen 2, Playmobil: The Movie become succeed after How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, or just ended like 5 animation films with low income with mixing comments (Wonder Park, UglyDolls, Lego Movie 2, Missing Link, Secret Life Of pets 2)?
Out of the upcoming animated films left in 2019, I think only “Toy Story 4” and “Frozen 2” will become successes at the box office due to the massive amounts of buzz for them. Besides those two, the others will probably either flop or under-perform like what happened with “Wonder Park,” “The Lego Movie 2,” or “Uglydolls.”
However, you may have still left out two more animated releases that are releasing in 2019; those are Dreamworks’ “Abominable” and Blue Sky’s “Spies in Disguise.” In terms of their box office performance, I’m not predicting either of them to make as much as “How to Train Your Dragon 3” or even “Secret Life of Pets 2.” Still, they’ll most likely do better than “Missing Link” or “Uglydolls” at the box office, simply because of the idea that an animated film would have to post atrocious box office numbers in order to gross that low.
Toy story 4 still hit but below expectations
Due to limitations of Toy Story 4 worldwide release due to John Wick – Toy Story 4 blockbuster timeline (John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, Aladdin, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, MIB International, Toy Story 4) still remains in worldwide despite lack of incomes, because of shit release date, release every one week, can they become another global hit and succeed like HTTYDTHW or just ended like other 5 animated films?
May you add Shaft (2019) to the pending list?
Luc Besson might have another flop on his hands with his new movie Anna.
You got it! 1.5 million Opening Day at 2100 screens and 28% on Rotten Tomatoes!!!!!! May we NOW mourn the loss of EuropaCorp and Luc Besson’s sexual assaults!!!
Yikes. I hadn’t even heard about Luc Besson’s sexual assault allegations. No wonder this movie flopped. Well, it was probably that along with a small marketing campaign and weak reviews.
Can Toy Story 4 become a successor of HTTYDTHW, or just ended like other 5 below average animation movies?
Animated movies this year :
Hit : How To Train Your Dragon : The Hidden World
Average : The Secret Life Of Pets 2, The Lego Movie 2
Bombed : Wonder Park, Uglydolls, Missing Link
Can Toy Story 4 become a successor of HTTYDTHW, or just ended like 5 average-to-be-bombed movies?
Meanwhile The Secret of Life Pets 2 still #1 at current box office incomes. All of this listed movies :
The Secret of Life Pets 2
Aladdin
Men In Black : International
are switch position one each other,
The Secret of Life Pets 2 still underperformed, but they can manage to avoid box office bomb due to low box office incomes (158 million USD)
Godzilla : King of The Monsters are currently 343 million USD box office
Your thoughts?
Except MIB International, i can see the rest not getting on this board.
Godzilla – As much as i wanted it to be on this board, the movie was never going to be a flop especially when you have a godzilla and couple of crazy monsters and one of your target market is asia.
Not sure if this is a joke or not, but of the ones listed MIB International has the least shot of making the list due to its lower budget and other factors.
It seems Men In Black International are likely to avoid box office bomb, despite slow start after initial release. Only 106 million USD after first week. Can MIB withstand and survive? Oh yes Toy Story 4 are released in next 2 days, and can affect Godzilla King of The Monsters, Dark phoenix, Secret Life of Pets 2, MIB International box office incomes due to blockbuster demise. If their incomes are as same as John Wick 3, MIB Int. are stripped in list.
Don’t forget Toy Story 3 box office is 1,026 billion USD
Agreed 100%, in what is an interesting discussion to have of the increasing importance of international box office… so far, MIB International’s week after OW have surpassed Sony’s model in expectations and now they are, against all odds beyond breakeven and going into small profit territory once ancillaries kick in.
Despite Toy Story 4 get 100% rating in Rotten Tomatoes even before release in world territories, let we see how much Toy Story 4 get. Can they broke Aladdin current record (727 million USD)
Most likely, “Toy Story 4” will eclipse “Aladdin” at the global box office. Considering how it’s already broken presale numbers set by “Incredibles 2,” the sequel will probably be aiming for a total around the numbers of “Toy Story 3” or higher.
Katie/Katie Reid (whichever one you decide to use) you replied to a post saying MIB International isn’t looking so hot right now with a series of incorrect statements. These statements have been addressed and corrected, multiple times, with facts indexed: MIB International’s OW was $30.03M which barely exceeded the studio’s $30M expectation, the budget of the movie and how costs were offset, and how the international box office saved it from being a flop and being included on the list. There is, absolutely, no other way to take that. Any confusion or anxiety furthermore is, solely, of your own doing, borne out of your embarrassment of being wrong. The only one who seems to have a problem is you, as you continue to write a series of posts on the same subject, reiterating the same agenda. If you don’t want your pattern of behavior exposed, don’t continue it. Simple.
I will go by Katie S. then. I am not Katie Reid.I am a totally different person.I have only discussed MIB one time on this board. I replied to Randy that the first weekend didn’t seem so great.It is good that it is not considered a flop. The only posts that I have repeated myself numerous times have been about Dumbo. Please get a life and move on.
The owner of this site knows who posts on here, and he can check the IP addresses on here. I am not the same person as Katie Reid. I am Katie Soto.
Well, there are many blockbusters are yet to be bombed due to lower rate (below 60%). But some of them are saved or stripped in bomb list despite bad schedule :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (Hit)(highest incomes in all John Wick trilogy, 276 million USD)
24th May : Aladdin (Hit)(724 million box office USD)
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters (yet to be stripped, although the box office is only 339 million USD. Need to take down Dumbo to avoid box office)
7th June : Dark Phoenix (completelty bombed)(204 million USD) & Secret Life of Pets 2 (doubtful)(154 million USD)
14th June : Men In Black : International (doubtful)(currently 102 million USD)
21st June : Toy Story 4 (yet to be released)
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home (yet to be released)
I know that I am beating a dead horse, but did Dumbo break even? Some sites say that it bombed, and others say that it was a hit. I agree with you about the other films. too
I think it’s time to add Dark Phoenix on. It dropped 72.6% for an estimated second weekend of $9,005,000 domestically, and if it is applied worldwide, the estimated second weekend is $37,430,752.20. There’s no way it’ll make money back now.
“Dark Phoenix” is already on the pending list, so the movie will probably get an article here as soon as BombReport can create it. At this point, there’s no way it’ll be making its money back, which will pit it as a certain lock for this site.
Only 204 million Dark Phoenix incomes after second weekend
Yvonne: “The Sun is Also a Star” was budgeted at only $9 million, so while it was a flop ($5.4 million) it won’t be covered on this site because the minimum budget that is considered is $20 million.
Dark Phoenix will be up in the next day or so.
What about The Sun is Also a Star?
Men in black international is being saved by the foreign box office
Yes, international audiences saved it from having an appearance here and being a bomb. Here is the exact quote from Deadline (from it’s box office analysis for this weekend): Sony made good figures overseas with this pic with $73.7M and a global take of $102.2M. That should get the film to breakeven on an anticipated multiple of 3x. Read further down on how smart Sony was in fiscally covering their risk on this reboot. For those wondering, OW domestically is now at $28.5M (and may go higher based on how Father’s Day performs.
But is it going to continue to make money for long? Especially with “Toy Story 4″(which is expected to have a huge opening weekend of at least 135 million dollars, and has a 97 percent Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, an 84 percent on Metacritic, and an A Cinemascore) and “Spider-Man: Far From Home”(which is already having a lot of buzz, and is expected to have a 170 million dollar 6 day opening weekend(120 million dollars for it’s 3 day opening weekend)) on the horizon? The only thing saving it from being on this list(if it ends up making a profit) is it’s 110 million dollar budget. If it had a budget similar to what “Dark Phoenix” had(around 200 million dollars), it would have been a major flop. I can see the film making 330 million dollars worldwide at the highest number, which would happen if the film didn’t have the huge competition it currently has. Unfortunately, if it keeps slowing down at the box office(which is likely), it can see it at 250 million dollars worldwide at it’s highest number. That certainly wouldn’t be terrible numbers, but they wouldn’t be good either. We’ll see.
Only 24% rate of RT in Men In Black : International. It seems this blockbuster bombed again
Can Toy Story 4 survived like Aladdin? OR just ended like Dark Phoenix? Due to the bad release date of blockbuster :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
24th May : Aladdin
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters
7th June : Dark Phoenix & Secret Life of Pets 2
14th June : Men In Black : International
21st June : Toy Story 4
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home
Even many great movies in May – June, none of them are above 60% rate, and this is the worst blockbuster era ever. You can check the movies like : Aladdin, MIB International, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, Godzilla King of the Monster, all are UNDERPERFORMED. And it’s before Toy Story 4. Look how the schedule release DESTROYING these 5 blockbuster (Aladdin, MIB International, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life Of Pets 2, Godzilla King of The Monster), and these 5 blockbuster RELEASE in one week to DESTROY another blockbusters. They are :
17th May : John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum
24th May : Aladdin
31st May : Godzilla : King of the Monsters
7th June : Dark Phoenix & Secret Life of Pets 2
14th June : Men In Black : International
21st June : Toy Story 4
26th June : Annabelle Comes Home
YOU CHECK THIS SCHEDULE, DOESN’T IT LOOK DEVASTATING? These blockbuster release in one week after a blockbuster
There are many sequels are isn’t looking well in this year. There are :
Secret Life Of Pets 2 (underperformed)
Dark Phoenix (completely bombed, too much negative word on mouth)
Godzilla King of Monsters : poor box incomes, low rate, lame in all ways, and might be bombed.
Your thoughts?
Men in black international isn’t looking so hot right now
No, it really isn’t! A lot of movie sequels have bombed this year.
“Katie” You wrote this exact comment now three times, and we get it… no matter how many times people bring in facts and statistics to refute that Men in Black International will be fine in the end, and not a bomb, you still want to spam the same message… under sheer insistence. It’s not needed and isn’t the intention of this board. Maybe start your own anti-fan blog instead.
Gosh Kory leave her alone! MIB isn’t doing well, I agree too! Just because you think this comment section doesn’t include comments like hers doesn’t mean you have to criticize her. It isn’t spam, it’s just her opinion and comment, which is what this section is about!
Thanks Katie Reid. I never even posted about MIB, and I wa was just agreeing with Randy that this was not a good year for sequels.
I was agreeing with Randy’s post. I never even made a post about MIB at all. I wanted to know that status of Dumbo, because it seems that it is right in the middle. You must have me mixed up with another poster. This site is about movies that have flopped. What is the problem?
Only 147 million USD Dark Phoenix incomes since the day of this film release. Your thoughts? It seems Dark Phoenix are the worst X-men Movies, due too much negative comments on that film, or maybe bad CGI or acting
Definitely not cgi or acting.
According to the films, MIB rate in RT only 25%. It seems none of the blockbuster since Aladdin release, the rate of RT is above 60%. Still same dull as Dark Phoenix. I don’t think those both films has too much negative word of mouth, the reason why both of them are bombed. Managing 200 million box office is the only way MIB to stripped in this list.
Can Toy Story 4 take down blockbuster curse?
I hear that Toy Story is tracking for a 200 million opening, so, it’s won’t be any problems taking down the curse!!!
Currently, “Men In Black: International” is tracking for an opening weekend of $24-25 million at the domestic box office. Even though its budget is a lot cheaper than “Dark Phoenix,” the film may still be tracking to flop based on current projections (unless it can have very strong overseas grosses to compensate for a poor showing in North America).
Unlikely, the film cost less than $100M to make and received $75M in partnership offset costs (source: deadline). It’ll make around $100M domestically, another $150M to $200M WW… which will avoid it being a bomb and depending on the scale might even eek out a profit, especially with SVOD added.
According to Variety, the reported budget was $110 million.
As well, with this type of projected opening I highly doubt “Men In Black: International” will get close to $100 million domestically, barring very strong legs (which will be unlikely due to reviews and competition). Presuming that it finishes with around $60-70 million in North America, it’d indeed need a very strong overseas showing in order to break even (much greater than the typical 35/65 split for blockbuster films) and turn a profit at the box office.
From deadline directly: The revival we hear cost Sony a low $94M before P&A with less than 18% participations each by Tencent and Hemisphere. For the P&A, Sony received $75M towards that from a variety of corporations, including Saxby’s and Lexus (source: Deadline). Also, your legs for a film starting at $25M (pending it doesn’t increase) is abnormally small. At worst, it would do $85M. So, yes, it will break even and, likely, turn a profit due to its modest budget. The case which you’ve already made with your own model.
Does anyone realize that Shaft comes out tomorrow?? Barely any advertising, medium budget. I think it’s going to be a hard flop 😕
It is already tracking for horrible $8M opening but it won’t make it here since we don’t know how much New Line deal with Netflix.
Supposedly MIB is under $100 million to make, so it might avoid the bomb list.
Let we see until Monday how much MIB goes
It cost 110 million to make my G
Some sources claim it’s $94 million net.
$24-25M in domestic, same as China. Doesnt look too good and it will strugle to even hit $200M global. I think it will make it here.
Your math is off, majorly. It is expected to do $30 to $35M in China alone OW. International (not including domestic) totals will be $200M alone, which at a cost of less than $100M avoids the bomb list.
Delayed Movies shift to next year (these films are originally set in this year, but pushed into next year) :
Sonic The Hedgehog
Artemis Fowl
Kingsman : The Great Game
The New Mutants
Bond 25
Movies are set in 2020, but move into this year :
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil
Movies are set in 2020, but delayed :
Avatar 2
Your thoughts about the delayed and move film release date?
There is too many films out for the summer, so they changed their release date until next year. Sonic looks really idiotic, and it already looks like a major bombe.
Only 4th Place Godzilla King of The Monsters in 2nd week. and Dark Phoenix only 2nd, amount theater lower than Secret Life of Pets 2. Godzilla need to at least 400 million box office incomes, although that budget is 170-200 million USD. Aladdin even withstand in 1st-3rd, despite Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of Pets 2 release in same day
Godzilla grossed 290 million it might be one of those movies where it will just squeeze out of bomb like the Tarzan movie with a 180m budget and 350 mil worldwide Godzilla has similar budget
Only 53% of RT Secret life Of Pets 2. There are many blockbusters upcoming, but none of them (Aladdin (56%), Godzilla King of the Monsters (40%), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (53%), Dark Phoenix (22%)) above 60% since Aladdin release. Your thoughts? Can MIB International and Toy story 4 still above 70% in RT?
100, 100, 98, with all these Tomatometer rankings of the previous ones, it’s won’t be any surprises for Toy Story 4.
Rt will give toy story 4 a high score because its pixar even though toy story 4 like mib international is a cashgrab
MIBI doesn’t have Will Smith (That’s the reason Aladdin have him), but, Toy Story 4 have the whole cast from the first three there!!!
Secret Life of Pets 2 survived, but Godzilla and dark Phoenix probably added in this list. DP only #2 below Secret Life Of Pets 2. 16.5 millions USD debut might stripped on this list.
Look how Godzilla and Dark phoenix big budget, needs at least 400 million box office for each and they fight against Aladdin and Secret Life of Pets 2, due to 175-200 million USD box office, doesn’t it look like this both might bombed? Aladdin survived. Secret Life of Pets 2 might be average hit, can overtake HTTYDTHW if performed well before Toy story 4 and Spider Man : Far From Home blockbuster in next 1-3 weeks
In the third week, Aladdin back to #1 in box office. It seems Godzilla King of The Monsters will be added on pending list. Only 199 million in one week, and lower than Budget. I can’t believe why WB films always big budget? Mostly 200 millions box office. Does WB films are too expensive?
Godzilla sequel #2 means 98% bombed in box office due to huge budgets. So does Dark Phoenix
Godzilla is at like 300 million now
Still called flop if isn’t above 400 million USD. Even shitty Dumbo can survived
It seems Godzilla : King of The Monsters and Dark Phoenix will be added in this list soon. The reason is 200 million budget, and they fight against Secret Life of pets 2. And, Secret Life of Pets 2 still might be added in this list.
That poor track of Godzilla in second weekend should be added on this list. Only 199 million USD box office, lower than Aladdin, and still lower than John Wick Parabellum
And Dark Phoenix is still doubtful for hit because theater is lower than Secret Life of Pets 2, and even secret Life of Pets 2 could ended like Wonder Park and Uglydolls
And even “The Secret Life Of Pets 2” is performing below expectations, with a 60-70 million dollar opening weekend now lowered down to a 45-50 million dollar opening weekend. Are people starting to get tired of Illumination’s films? Especially with “Toy Story 4” expected to destroy the box office with a 150-200 million dollar opening weekend two weeks from now, and stealing that film’s(“The Secret Life Of Pets 2”)thunder? Kind of like six years ago, where “Despicable Me 2” stole all the thunder that “Monsters University” had(only now this time, it’s the Pixar film(“Toy Story 4”) that’s stealing the Illumination film’s(“The Secret Life Of Pets 2”) thunder)? It’s still going to do great numbers nevertheless, but it’s now time that Illumination is starting to be on it’s decline.
“Godzilla: King Of The Monsters” did decently on it’s opening weekend, but it was barely beaten by “Aladdin”(2019)(and that film was on it’s second weekend), and it has been posting huge drops. Will it be a contender on this list? Probably.
Only 53% of RT Secret life Of Pets 2. There are many blockbusters upcoming, but none of them (Aladdin (56%), Godzilla King of the Monsters (40%), Secret Life Of Pets 2 (53%), Dark Phoenix (22%)) above 60% since Aladdin release. Your thoughts? Can MIB International and Toy story 4 still above 70% in RT?
You should put Godzilla on the pending list. It only has made a little more then it’s budget and I don’t think it will make much more money.
That poor track of Godzilla is completely bombed. Look Aladdin, Dark phoenix, and secret life of pets 2. Another major films such as MIB International and Toy Story 4 fucking each others to avoid bombed box office. Aladdin survived because still #1 in 3rd week. Doesn’t it look to fucked up of these blockbusters? And destroying high budget films, didn’t it?
August flops: Dora And The Lost City Of Gold( 3 weeks after The Lion King and a week before Angry Birds 2 ),Good Boys, Playmobil The Movie (2 weeks after Angry Birds 2 and a week after My Spy), October: The Addams Family (2 weeks after Abominable and a week before Malificent 2), November: Terminater Dark Fate, Artic Justice Thunder Squad (2 weeks after Malicficent 2 and 3 weeks before Frozen 2) December: Farmaggedon A Shaun The Sheep Movie (3 weeks after Frozen 2, same weekend as Jumanji 3, a week before Star Wars and 2 weeks before Spies In Disguise.)
Dark Phoenix looks like the next mortal engines…er, I mean, mortal lock for this site.
Yup ! Pretty much . . . . it deserves a good spot with $200 mn budget !!!
I think The Sun Is Also a Star should be added here.
I feel like Dark Phoenix is going to flop but I wanna know what other people think. It has no connection to the MCU, the hype has been kinda low, and X-Men: Apocalypse underperformed but didn’t outright flop. Perhaps that’s what will happen this time but I feel like most people won’t care to see the Dark Phoenix saga ruined a second time after The Last Stand.
Dark Phoenix costs $200 million and it has the lowest theater count since the first one. I don’t think Disney has high expectations for it anyways.
Disney probably wanted to focus more on “Aladdin”(2019), “Toy Story 4”, and “The Lion King”(2019) anyway.
I was shocked to see that the film had a low screen count.
Bad reviews(22 percent on Rotten Tomatoes and 44 percent on Metacritic) aren’t helping either.
“The Secret Life Of Pets 2″(as lackluster as it looks) will beat it HARD at the box office.
It might do well overseas, but the competition(especially in the following weeks, with “Toy Story 4”, “Spider-Man: Far From Home”, and “The Lion King”(2019) on the horizon) is strong and it’s going to fall down quickly. A very poor B- Cinemascore(which is especially poor for a big budgeted tentpole film like this) is also going to lose audiences.
Oh well.
Do you think Godzilla will flop? It’s made a lot of money in its first weekend but it dropped to second and I don’t know if it will make so much more to break even.
Maybe. It did decent numbers on it’s opening weekend, but it’s not that good for a film that had 200 million dollars(plus an extra 100 million dollars for marketing)(300 million dollars including marketing) put into it. Competition is going to make it even harder to do well.
I didn’t like the film at all. It was mainly an excuse for the film to have big monster battles rather than tell a good story. I was really disappointed.
Will that take a toll on “Godzilla vs. Kong” next year? Probably.
According to my prediction about upcoming blockbuster, updated 3rd of June, 2019, based on Indonesia standard Time :
Aladdin : Hit (445 million USD box office).
Godzilla : King of The Monsters : Doubtful (170 million USD box office). Might added in this list
Dark Phoenix : Doubtful
Secret Life of Pets 2 : Doubtful
Men In Black : International : Hit
Toy Story 4 : Hit
Annabelle Comes Home : Hit
Spider Man : Far From Home : Hit
The Lion King : Doubtful
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood : Doubtful
Hobbs & Shaw : Hit
Dora and the Lost City of Gold : Bombed
The Angry Birds Movie 2 ; Doubtful
Angel Has Fallen : Doubtful
IT Chapter 2 : Hit
Joker : Doubtful
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil : Doubtful
A Shaun the Sheep Movie : Farmageddon : Doubtful
Terminator : Dark Fate : Doubtful
Frozen 2 : Hit
Jumanji 3 : Doubtful
Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker : Hit
Your thoughts?
Dark Phoenix will most likely bomb hard.
“The Lion King”(2019) listed as “Doubtful”? Even though that film is tracking for a massive 180-200 million dollar opening weekend? Wow.
We can added Lion king is doubtful. Reason? In next 2 weeks, Hobbs and Shaw are released, and affect to The lion King trackdown box office. And if Lion King is ended like Godzilla 2, what are you doing now? And if Hobbs and Shaw is higher than the Lion king remake? Or Lion King remake is worse? I don’t believe Lion king is hit or not because of schedule release
It seems Godzilla : King Of The Monsters might be added on this list. The reason is Aladdin in second weekend still performed well, and now Aladdin 445 million box office, and Godzilla opening just 170 million USD, due to big budget. Those big budgets in this weekend might affect Dark Phoenix as well, and both Godzilla and Dark Phoenix can added in this list. Thus, Godzilla : King of The Monsters RT just dropped 30%. Some good and hit movies are low RT like Venom, but Venom is a blockbuster hit.
“Godzilla: King of Monsters” should probably be added to the pending list. It’s estimated to debut with just $45-50 million domestically and $130 million worldwide, which isn’t that great for its long-term profitability if the budget is an expensive $170 million-230 million.
First, many people still interest about Aladdin. Aladdin 2019 visual and graphics are 9/10 rate. And you can hear Jasmine singing Speechless, remind me of Endgame scenes.
Second, Godzilla 2 schedule are bad, battling with Aladdin isn’t good enough. Oh yes don’t forget Secret Life of Pets 2 and Dark Phoenix might be a big threat for Godzilla 2 because this both is released in this week.
Third, opening debut is lower than Aladdin, Aladdin is survived, and can even to bypass 550 million box office. And Godzilla need at least 400 million box office in order to avoid on pending list. Remember The Mummy Tom Cruise, still bombed even that movies box office doubling the budget (195 million USD),(400 million USD box office).
Fourth, upcoming Illumination movies, Secret Life Of Pets 2. They should learn from HTTYDTHW to avoid major animation flops in this year.
Movie financing has became really messy in recent years. For example Warner Bros. terminated its movie financing deal with RatPac-Dune last year after sexual harassment allegations against Brett Ratner surfaced and this past January, WB won the rights for the RatPac-Dune library and the RatPac logo was removed from the home media prints of Justice League and has the Access Entertainment logo and this logo was shown on the next last few movies from the RatPac-Dune deal like Ready Player One, Game Night and The 15:17 to Paris. LStar Capital and Sony Pictures cut ties in July 2017 after a series of box-office flops and LStar was originally going to finance The Emoji Movie, Flatliners and their future movies. But, after reevaluating the deal, Sony and LStar ended their movie financing deal and this came only 3 years after Sony Pictures signed the deal and 2 years before It was set to expire. Universal currently has a financing deal arranged with China-based Perfect World Pictures and some of the movies that are part of the deal flopped and it may not be surprising if they cut ties as well. Even Paramount tried to ink a financing deal with Huahua Media and Shanghai Film Group in 2017 but that deal would fall apart after Transformers: The Last Knight, Baywatch and Ghost In The Shell flopped. All of this shows how Big movie studio financing can be really risky and they coin a bunch of capital into movies that end up bombing.
You are right. Almost of WB movies have lower rate, even RT mostly below 60%. You can check : Fantastic Beasts : The Crimes of Grinderwald, Justice League, Ghost In The Shell, Godzilla : King of The Monsters, only 50% survived in pending list of bombed.
Looks like Godzilla’s going to underperform in the States. We’ll see if the international box office’ll make up for it.
Predicted the upcoming most wanted films or blockbusters :
Aladdin : Hit
Godzilla : King of The Monsters : Doubtful
Dark Phoenix : Doubtful
Secret Life of Pets 2 : Doubtful
Men In Black : International : Hit
Toy Story 4 : Doubtful
Annabelle Comes Home : Hit
Spider Man : Far From Home : Hit
The Lion King : Doubtful
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood : Doubtful
Hobbs & Shaw : Hit
Dora and the Lost City of Gold : Bombed
The Angry Birds Movie 2 ; Doubtful
IT Chapter 2 : Hit
Joker : Doubtful
Maleficent : Mistress Of Evil : Doubtful
Terminator : Dark Fate : Doubtful
Frozen 2 : Hit
Jumanji 3 : Doubtful
Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker : Hit
Your thoughts?
I think some aren’t right. Men in black will do alright. Lion king will for sure hit a billion. Once upon a time in Hollywood has name talent, it’ll do great. I think secret life of pets will do fine, and I’ll be surprised if toy story 4 doesn’t reach close to a billion. Also, I am scared for godzilla.
Some doubtful incomes is based on scheduled release, not based on films. Toy Story 4 is doubtful because in next 2 weeks, Spider Man : Far From Home MCU huge interest, and could affect Toy Story 4 incomes. Secret Life Of Pets is doubtful, the reason is Toy Story 4 huge interest in next 2 weeks, and contact with Aladdin and Dark Phoenix and Godzilla : King of The Monsters
I know. MIB international honestly doesn’t look like it has that much wide appeal in the summer especially with stars that aren’t known for attracting wide audiences. Toy story 4 will do fine because it has a wider appeal for families just like spiderman. The secret life of pets will do fine because illumination makes a ton of money over seas even with competition
Godzilla : King of The Monsters is might be added to this list. Reason?
1. Low RT percentage (currently 44%)
2. Opening theaters not as many as Aladdin (perhaps Aladdin visual is better)(spoiler Endgame)
3. 200 million budget (probably bombed if not over 400 million box office, due to Aladdin, Dark Phoenix, and Secret Life of Pets 2 release schedule)
4. Bad release scheduled. You can check the released films in January and February in this year. Not many blockbuster but still withstand
5. Battling against Aladdin, Dark Phoenix, Secret Life of Pets 2, Toy Story 4 isn’t enough for Godzilla : King of The Monsters due to bad scheduled release (Aladdin – Godzilla – Dark Phoenix/Secret Life of Pets 2 – Toy Story 4, in 5 weeks)
Even if Godzilla: King of the Monsters doesn’t do well in America, it will do gangbusters in Asia.
Not good enough for Godzilla : King of The Monsters could battling against Aladdin. And the next week is Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of Pets 2. Due to high interest of Aladdin, Godzilla : King of Monsters still doubtful in US even Asia
Blockbuster with good schedule release in 2019 :
Captain Marvel
Avengers : Endgame
Hobbs & Shaw
IT : Chapter Two
The Lion King
Spider Man : Far From Home
Maleficent : Mistress of Evil
Frozen 2
Blockbuster with bad schedule release in 2019 (might be flopped, even Dumbo and Shazam escaped from bomb territory):
Dumbo – Shazam – Hellboy
All Films in May and June
Jumanji 3
Joker
Terminator : Dark Fate
Your thoughts?
No one cares about Maleficent, so I doubt it’ll be successful. Joker will be fine, not a large budget so it’ll probably break even, and Terminator Dark Fate looks so generic, I doubt many will show up for it.
I’d argue that How to Train Your Dragon: Hidden World had an great schedule.
Wonder how much Booksmart cost, since it might make this list. However, Ellison decided to not disclose the budget, so that doesn’t help. May have been too low.
same here , the only thing i`ve found is ” $10 to 15 millions estimate” … it would be nice if somebody can provide “official” number
It seems that we are in a dark age of comedy. Compared to the late 2000’s, there have been very few remarkable and successful comedy movies. In 2018, the only comedies to break the 100m dollar mark ww were Crazy Rick Asians, Game Night, and Night School. Compare the recent slate of comedy movies to the 2007/08/09 slates…
These 5 blockbuster movies are likely at least one of these 5 are bombed. The reason is bad schedule release and high budget of the movies. There are :
Aladdin (183M budget)(currently 207 million USD box office)
Godzilla : King Of The Monsters (200M budget)(release next week after Aladdin)
Dark Phoenix (200M budget)(release next week after Godzilla : King of The Monsters and release is as same day as Secret Life of Pets 2)
Toy Story 4 (approximately 50-150M budget)(release two weeks later after Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of pets 2)
Secret Life of Pets 2 (approximately 50-100M budget)(release next week after Godzilla : King of The Monsters and release is as same day as Dark Phoenix)
Aladdin can survive if second weekend above Godzilla even with 207 million debut
Toy Story 4 will not bomb… the parent series and studio is too beloved for people to ignore
Hmmmm…………….. Toy Story is not listed and bombed, IF can withstand against Spiderman : Far From Home, and another blockbuster meltdown
You can predict if Godzilla and Dark phoenix FIGHT EACH OTHER yet to box office bomb due to BIG BUDGET
And, Secret Life of Pets 2 can bombed if Toy Story 4 interest more than Secret Life of Pets 2. The reason is :
1. 875 Million of prequel is useless if sequel of Secret Life Of Pets 2 bombed.
2. Toy Story 4 released 2 weeks after Secret Life Of pets 2
Well, seems like “Aladdin” is already going to steer clear of this list. It’s already tracking for a four-day opening north of $100 million, and is over-performing compared to most projections. Considering how its final reported budget is $183 million, it’ll probably have no problem reaching the minimum $400-470 million required to break even at the WW box office.
Yes, but facing film like Godzilla, Dark Phoenix, and Secret Life of Pets 2 isn’t easy as well, because blockbusters are upcoming in this 3 weeks, and it can affect all 4 blockbusters, including Aladdin
207 million USD box office debut might be able to survive in this list. But the upcoming blockbuster can cause a major disaster of bad scheduling. Check at the release schedule in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_film
Movies in 2019 are delayed in 2020 :
Sonic the Hedgehog
Kingsman : The Great Game
Artemis Fowl
Bond 25
Your thoughts?
It looks like Sonic’s fate won’t be determined this year with the film’s delay to 2020. I’m glad they are actually taking things slow, and are trying to win back the fans while not causing any tension for the animation workers.
Wish Aladdin lands up here . . . . Dumbo somehow survived.
To Disney,
Stop ruining my childhood nostalgic movies.
Any chance that you can allow both the old and new viewing options? I kinda preferred the old one where there’s just the poster and name of the movie.
I actually prefer that too, but I’ve run into a problem where quite a few people have dismissed this site because they thought there was no content and it was just a website that LISTS flops by showing the movie poster. So, as derivative as it is, it now says READ FULL ARTICLE. Sigh.
I like the way you have put up the specific details in this format. The prior format wasn’t very informative, but i can understand why you applied this only to this year and last year’s pages – you would have to reformat 20 more pages.
Regarding the specific details, would it be possible to make a new row to display the overall loss suffered by the studio
That’s a great idea Cattus! And I am actually changing the other years, but it’s a slow process.
I understand your viewpoint, it would just be nice if there were options for both formats, just like how Windows allows both icons and lists. It shouldn’t be too difficult to program.
Bad news A Dog’s Journey and The Sun Is Also a Star both got bomb from box office so can you add both of those two?
Detective Pikachu second weekend isn’t bad at all. Although 290 million only 1 week over. Maybe in the third week they can withstand Aladdin and John Wick 3. JW3 debut is 97 million USD.
What was the budget for a Dog’s Journey? ‘Cause it hasn’t made much
It’s probably around the same 18-24 million range of the original
Last weekend, while “John Wick 3” had nearly doubled its 2017 predecessor’s opening weekend and dethroned “Avengers: Endgame” at the top of the domestic box office, two other new releases (“A Dog’s Journey” and “The Sun is Also a Star”) didn’t really fare as well. The “Dog’s Purpose” sequel has opened to about $8 million domestically, below even the numbers for “A Dog’s Way Home,” while “Sun” debuted with a poor $2.6 million in America.
Between these two new arrivals, I’m very sure that “A Dog’s Journey” may be able to steer clear of becoming an outright bomb, due to its overseas numbers so far (but only if it is budgeted slightly less than the first film). On the other hand, “Sun” may not really resonate much with audiences overseas, which means that it may end its box office run as a flop (although it won’t really be added here since its reported budget was only $9 million, and that you do try to avoid adding any flops that cost less than $20 million to produce).
Detective Pikachu in second weekend are below average. This is because John Wick 3 : Parabellum have strong debuts in Friday. It seems Detective Pikachu might be added in this list because of major blockbuster in this weekend. Aladdin is a big threat for Detective Pikachu. Yes because bad schedule release, and John Wick 3 ended Endgame domination. JW3PB take 22 million USD in debut
Its doing fine
They havent updated pikachus foregin box office yet sources say pikachu is at $280m ww on a 150 mil budget
Dumbo was definitely a flop. The budget is definitely over its final profit.
It seems that it is almost safe . . . Disney has to thank the foreign figures for that.
$170mn budget and is around $340mn WW
Honestly, I am so confused how is Disney able to pull off most crappy movies.
Good news though, I have heard that Shazam beat out Dumbo!
I thought Dumbo was considered a box office bomb. They have to pay for promotion and advertising.
Looking of this blockbuster meltdown (while the blockbuster release in week A, and another blockbuster release in A + 1, and another blockbuster A + 2), it might be a disaster for these films in bad scheduling. There are :
Aladdin (next week is Godzilla: King of the Monsters)
Godzilla: King of the Monsters (next week is Dark Phoenix and The Secret Life of Pets 2)
Dark Phoenix (next 2 week is Toy Story 4, same release date like The Secret Life of Pets 2)
The Secret Life of Pets 2 (next 2 week is Toy Story 4, same release date like Dark phoenix)
Jumanji 3 (next week is Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker)
Looking for a box office meltdown, it seems Detective Pikachu can added in this list even 63% RT. In that case, if this weekend still underperformed. In facts, while Avengers Endgame in Thursday only got USD 3.4 million, and Pikachu second weekend are dropped. In Thursday it was 2.7 million USD. Despite higher than Alita : Battle Angel, in case of 170 million budget, and now John Wick 3 Parabellum was released, and Aladdin released in next week, it might be a disaster for Detective Pikachu
Your thoughts?
It will do fine
That’s especially when unlike fellow studios Annapurna and Laika, I don’t think STX is run by the child of a billionaire who can more than afford to finance their films (regardless of their budgets or box office performance).
They better hope that the Russo Brothers can pull people in to see 21 Bridges because I doubt that projects such as Playmobil: The Movie are going to be money makers for STX. The biggest successes they have had so far are with the Bad Moms series and The Upside so they definitely need more IPs.
And Upside wasn’t even owned by STX, they just got a distribution fee for that one.
Add the geezer cheerleading comedy “Poms” to this list – only $5M this weekend when it was tracking $8M! STX, the studio behind this bomb (and the animated turkey “UglyDolls” as well) may not survive long if it keeps churning out flop after flop!
Poms looks atrocious and is doing terrible, but I try to keep titles off the site that cost below $20M. But these low rent projects from STX are certainly going to destroy them. And good riddance. To see an alternative indie distributor release safe, corporate junk is a waste of resources. We already have Lionsgate doing that.
I don’t mind STX for the most part. They are a studio that is dedicated to mid-to-low budget flicks that can sometimes have bizarre concepts. The best movies that I feel they have put out so far are Hardcore Henry and The Happytime Murders. Sadly, neither of them really took off despite having unique draws.
I personally think that Annapurna is better at choosing better scripted flicks than STX.
Anyhow both are long waiting for a good hit at box office.
Put Tolkien on Pending List. Budget is $20 million. Only made $2 million so far and is #9 at the box office.
That $20M budget figure has not been substantiated by Fox Searchlight or Chernin Ent. It was filmed in the UK and the BFI has also not reported any budget or rebates issued that would give a clearer picture about what the costs were. I will assume that eventually the actual budget will be listed from the UK gov. And by the way, if anyone knows the production company name that the movie used, plug it into the UK gov site https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/ and the budget mystery will be solved. But it literally could be any name…
It’s okay if lego Movie 2 and Dumbo are stripped from the list. But look in 2017, example Geostorm, 120 million budget, and 220 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. Justice league, 300 million budget, and 657 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. The Great Wall, 150 million budget, and 332 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP. Pacific Rim Uprising, 170 million budget, and 290 million box office, STRIPPED IN FLOP LIST. Even Lego Movie 2 is likely worse than Lego Movie. The mummy, 195 million budget, 410 million box office, STILL CALLED FLOP.
Can Aladdin, Toy Story 4, Godzilla : King Of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix AVOID ALL THEM? And even Uglydolls, Pikachu and John Wick 3 : Parabellum?
Your thoughts?
Dumbo was a major flop! Why the denial on here? After paying all the marketing and advertising, I doubt it will break even.
Look how many 170-200 million budget movies in this year. Still laughable if did not break even. Such as Aladdin, Godzilla King of The Monsters, Detective Pikachu and Dark Phoenix
“Pikachu” should be able to escape flop territory, as it’s projected to make around $500 million WW over a budget of $150 million.
On the other hand, “Uglydolls” may be a safe lock for this site as despite having a staggered release schedule, I highly doubt any of its upcoming territories will be able to save it from becoming a total flop (it’ll probably tank in China as well, considering how even well-received Pixar films like “Incredibles 2” failed to crack $60 million there).
With 63% of RT, it might break even. But Aladdin and Godzilla : King Of The Monsters may a big threat of Detective Pikachu performance trackdown in box office, if both have at least over 200 million debut incomes
Detective Pikachu debut is well performed in debut. Despite Avengers Endgame still #1, Detective Pikachu might be overtake Dumbo, Shazam, and Alita as well.
170.4 million debut. Higher than Dumbo, Alita and Shazam. Can Detective Pikachu overtake these three?
Uglydolls only 16 million USD incomes in over 1 week.
Your thoughts about Pikachu and Uglydolls?
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how much do you think Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Dora And The Lost City Of Gold, Playmobil The Movie, Gemini Man, Sonic The Hedgehog, The Addams Family, Cats, Masters Of The Universe, and Farmaggedon A Shaun The Sheep movie can make on their opening weekends, domestically and worldwide due to them tracking as flops?
“I liked Gemini Man better when it was rated R and called Looper.” -me from the future weekend when Gemini Man comes out
Long Shot 2019 will flop too, $40 million budget vs $13.6 US + $3.2 international after first week does not look good.
Why Charlize chose to do this film is baffling…..
I noticed Lego Movie 2 is no longer pending. The home media sales must have been strong.
Still, I already knew that it would probably break even in the end if ancillaries are factored in.
I think that is great news. Yes, it didn’t do so well box office wise(190 million dollars worldwide on a 90-100 million dollar budget), but it’s obvious that Warner Bros. is expecting it to do well on home media. Will we get any more “Lego Movie” films in the future? Probably not, thanks to the underwhelming(if not downright terrible) numbers that “The Second Part” had. But there’s hope… …there’s hope.
(Note: It’s surprising that Warner Bros. that Warner Bros. gave “The Second Part” the green light despite “The Lego Ninjago Movie” doing terribly at the box office. Who knows?)
https://www.theverge.com/2015/8/17/9127249/future-of-disney-marvel-star-wars
Hey look, Disney has master plans to buy more studios which would lead to “lack-of-competion”! We have to stop this from happening!
PS
Chris Plante is making master plans, which will lead us to the man-eating Creamzoids!
Reportedly it did really freaking well at home video and wb are considreing a sequl
Animated film in this year so far :
HTTYDTHW : HIT
Lego Movie 2 : FLOP
Wonder Park : FLOP
Uglydolls : FLOP
Missing Link : FLOP
Two words : animation meltdown
Your thoughts?
I think if animated films other than Disney, Disney/Pixar, and Illumination have a hard time breaking even, then it may be time to take your animation ambitions to streaming. You may have better luck, more eyeballs, and more creative freedom. Netflix in December is releasing a film called Klaus on their streaming service, which will be the first high profile 2D animated feature released by a US company in 8 years, and 2 years after MLP: The Movie was released, and a year after Mary Poppins Returns received a 2D animated sequence. Klaus hails from The SPA Studios, the brains behind the super successful Despicable Me franchise, in which the minions get put on every piece of merchandise here in the states. What will happen, though, is that Klaus will be making the 2D animation look like 3D and create a hybrid approach that blends the two mediums together. That look alone wouldn’t get people off their couches and into theater seats to see it on the big screen. It has a much better chance on streaming. Otherwise, the film would just flop in theaters like all those other films that you just mentioned.
Usually, animated films from Disney, Illumination, Pixar, Dreamworks, and Sony can break even. Otherwise might be flops. This is a fact. Look of other 4 animated films still called flop :
Lego Movie 2 : FLOP (even stripped from list, still called FLOP)
Wonder Park : FLOP
Uglydolls : FLOP
Missing Link : FLOP
i’m not lying this but it’s fact. Only HTTYDTHW are withstand in this year. It’s before Toy Story 4 and Secret Life of Pets 2 released.
Like what you said you are right.
Despite Uglydolls have great cast, it cannot compete against May and June most upcoming blockbusters.
I’m predicting that “Uglydolls” will take a brutal second-weekend drop (for family film standards) on par with “Dumbo,” as there’s just no way that it’d fare well against the debut of “Pikachu” (even if the Pokemon film got a mixed-okay reception from critics, audiences may still enjoy it). On the other hand, I believe that “Pikachu” will open with around $65-75 million, which may allow it to compete with “Endgame” for the May 10-12 weekend crown.
The first week of uglydolls is just 8.5 million USD. Lower than WP
I was mainly referring to the percentage drop, not the box office numbers. In reality, at the domestic box office “Uglydolls” will be lucky to even equal the opening weekend gross of “Dumbo,” or get close to the amount that “Avengers: Endgame” earned from its Thursday night previews.
“Uglydolls” is already doomed. A lousy 8.5 million dollar opening weekend, terrible reviews from critics(32 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, 39 percent on Metacritic), a lackluster B+ Cinemascore(well, for an animated film, anyway), and zero buzz will give it a MASSIVE drop on it’s second weekend. Especially with “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu” on it’s way in two days and “Avengers: Endgame” still going strong. “Avengers: Endgame” has already taken away a nice chunk of the family audience “Uglydolls” has, with “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu” joining forces with “Endgame” and taking away ALL of the family audiences “Uglydolls” had. Add in further competition with “Aladdin”(2019), “The Secret Life Of Pets 2”, and “Toy Story 4”, and “Uglydolls” is a big contender for the main list.
And adding the fact that there’s HARDLY any results for the film’s overseas numbers(see https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=uglydolls.htm), and a 50(and there’s a chance that the drop could be even bigger) percent drop at the box office, and making the 45-50 million dollar budget back will be very unlikely.
So uglydolls have already 8.5 million USD income in this 3 weeks. Your thoughts about second weekend Uglydolls and Detective pikachu debut?
2019 next Box Office Flops:
MAY:
The Hustle
Poms
JULY:
Dora and the Lost City of Gold
AUGUST:
Artemis Fowl
The Kitchen
Where’d You Go, Bernadette
Good Boys
Playmobil: The Movie
SEPTEMBER:
The Goldfinch
Hustlers
OCTOBER:
Gemini Man
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil
NOVEMBER:
Terminator: Dark Fate
Sonic the Hedgehog
Charlie’s Angels
Midway
DECEMBER:
Cats
Super Intelligence
Sonic the Hedgehog really looks awful in the trailer.
EDIT: Artemis Fowl postponed to May 29,2020.
Why did they do that?
Let us say some brief words in memorial of those films that came out this weekend only to die. They did not know that this was the time of the Avengers, that they would have no elbow room to even begin to breathe before being crushed by the behemoth. The Intruder may be the only one to survive it, only due to the fact that its budget is really low.
I think Lego Movie Two should be added. With Endgame in theatres, I don’t think it’s going to get much more money.
LEGO Movie 2 might be able to at least double its budget, depending on how much it cost–I’ve seen figures ranging form $90 million to $100 million. If it’s the former, then it’s already earned twice its budget, though only barely.
Welcome to our fun fair of flopped movies, “Uglydolls.” If you and your attempted cuteness/appeal to young kids doesn’t allow you to fare well in the main box office bar with the Gucci-clad rich blockbusters like “Avengers: Endgame,” “Captain Marvel,” or even more moderate (but still big) motion pictures like “Shazam” or “Detective Pikachu,” then here is a place where you’ll be perpetually safe from those cannibalizing hit films.
Look how some past animated movies are performed amazing and become global hit before 2018 :
Despicable Me 3
HTTYD 2
Despicable Me 2
Ice Age 4
Finding Dory
Zootopia
Coco
Moana
Frozen
Toy Story 3
Monsters University
Minions
Inside Out
Finding Dory
Shrek 2
Shrek the Third
And since 2018 :
Inredibles 2
Only one animated films are above 700 million USD, even The Grinch (518M USD) and Ralph Breaks The Internet (528M USD) and Hotel Transylvania 3 (528M USD) average box office
2010 to 2016 shows the golden era of animated films. This animation incomes show how the mighty animation have fallen start from 2018. Can Toy Story 4 and Frozen 2 become successor of Incredibles 2? Or ended up like Trolls and Emoji Movie? Or ended up like HTTYDTHW? Wonder Park and Lego Movie 2 is completely doomed
Your thoughts?
The first set of movies is between 2010 and 2017. Your Second Set is from 2018 to 2019. If you want to make a point about under performing Animated Movies, the time sampling must be consistent (ie, every year or 5 years, etc.)
That lockdown Uglydolls against Avengers Endgame, Detective Pikachu and Aladdin might be a disaster for Uglydolls because lack of promotions, lack of audience interest, almost in Asians have no promotional or teaser Uglydolls in most cinemas, mostly can check from Youtube.
And the sequel shocking performance of Secret of Life Pets, Secret of Life Pets 2 is locked down against Godzilla : King of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, and Toy Story 4 because lack of promotions, and audience interest might a disaster for this sequels too if they perform are under at least one of these three films are locked down with one-two week scheduled release.
All of the animation movies in this year are BIG THREAT for everything regardless types of animation movies and scheduled release. Yet that because this year is a demise for animation films
Your thoughts about animation film meltdown?
Yesterday at Walmart was the first time I ever saw an Uglydoll toy. Why make a movie focused on C-list toys anyway?
STX Entertainment (a newcomer in film distribution, they’ve only been around since 2014 or 2015) wanted to expand their market and gain a franchise since they currently only have one with the Bad Moms series.
The UglyDolls movie was originally set up at Illumination Entertainment in 2011, but it was moved to STX. UglyDolls might have been successful if it was marketed by Illumination, the marketing machine.
Can uglydolls performed well against domination of Avengers Endgame which already USD 1.67 billion, and in the next week Detective Pikachu is released in next week? And even Detective Pikachu can steady like Alita : Battle Angel box office performance? The big threat is on your audience interest in these boths, and Avengers still could break Avatar record
Because this years have some movies adapted manga/anime/video game from Japan
Sonic the Hedgehog ; Japan (adrenaline video game which clear act 1 until boss)
Detective Pikachu : Japan (video game from Nintendo 3DS)
Godzilla : King of the Monsters : Japan legendary monsters
Alita Battle Angel : Japan manga
Not to mention, even if it doesn’t top the box office(that is, if “Endgame” overperforms on it’s third weekend, which is likely), it will still do very solid results for Warner Bros. And being the first video game live action film adaptation to get a Fresh score(70 percent so far) on Rotten Tomatoes is already an achievement. I could see the film making around 60 million dollars at it’s lowest opening weekend estimates, and around 85-90 million dollars at it’s highest opening weekend estimates. And even if it hits the second place spot, that will still be a huge result. Speaking of which, these are the opening weekend estimates for next week:
1: “Avengers: Endgame”($95,000,000)
2: “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu”($70,000,000)
3: “The Hustle”($12,000,000)
4: “Long Shot”($9,000,000)
5: “Poms”($8,500,000)
If that happens, “Detective Pikachu” could get the second biggest opening weekend for a film not opening at the number 1 spot (behind “Inside Out”, which made 90 million dollars on it’s opening weekend despite opening in second place, AND competing with “Jurassic World”.) That’s very impressive, indeed.
I might have overpredicted the chances “Long Shot” had, and how that film underperformed. Here’s a new list:
1: “Avengers: Endgame”($80,000,000)
2: “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu”($75,000,000)
3: “The Hustle”($9,000,000)
4: “Poms”($8,500,000)
5: “The Intruder”($5,000,000)
The first Secret Of Life Pets (2016) are shocking performance of 875 million despite not too many audience interest. However, if Secret of Life Pets 2 are ended like Lego Movie due to bad release schedule it might be worst as same as Uglydolls. The reason is Dark Phoenix, MIB International and Toy Story 4 release date in a week, can affect Secret of Life Pets 2 before Toy Story 4. HTTYDTHW are the example animation to avoid underperform in this year. Can Secret of Life Pets 2 did perform like HTTYDTHW?
The ridiculously poor box office of “The Lego Movie 2” will surely derailed the franchise.
After the success of the LEGO Movie back in 2014, it looked like Warner Bros. had found a sure-found money-making franchise. However, it was clear when the LEGO Batman movie relatively underperformed that the franchise was struggling, and then came the box office flop – The LEGO Ninjago Movie. The LEGO Movie 2 also doesn’t have that freshness that the original presented, and it came directly after a box office bomb. The LEGO franchise has been over exploited, and is running on borrowed time.
The review embargo for “Uglydolls” has just lifted today, and as expected many of the critic scores were rotten. The current score is sitting at 46% on Rotten Tomatoes, although it may go lower as more critics release their takeaways from the film. While family films like this one can be quite critic-proof due to their target audience not caring about reviews, this animation from STX and Alibaba will probably experience a steeper second-weekend drop than “Wonder Park” when “Detective Pikachu” debuts with likely better reviews, considering how the Pokemon film is way more kid-friendly than “Us” (which opened in the second weekend of “Park”) and will probably take audiences away from this one. While there’s still a chance that overseas may save it (especially in Asia), I don’t really see those countries warming up to this film that much, which may cement this ugly flop (for good riddance) as the next film on the pending list here (however, we still have to see how it performs before it can be a guaranteed lock here).
That budget lower than Wonder Park and Lego Movie 2 might be avoid box office bombs as long as performed well and incomes above 200 million USD. Otherwise this film is disaster for animation movies.
Yes, most countries especially in Asia are not too hyped this films, yet because some Asians didn’t know this animated films. That lockdown Avengers and Pikachu and Aladdin is the main threat, and if this movie lack everything, Uglydolls is big disaster.
And even with that, the 45 million dollar budget was just for production costs. Seeing that STX also(presumably) spent a fairly hefty amount of money marketing the film, and also trying to get a TV series and a series of smartphone apps off the ground, it will HAVE to make at least 120-150 million dollars worldwide to make at least a small profit. Which will be impossible, thanks to “Avengers: Endgame” continuing to dominate the box office and “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu” and “Aladdin”(2019) coming on the horizon. Poor reviews from critics(36 percent on Rotten Tomatoes and 39 percent on Metacritic) and almost zero buzz from audiences will ruin it as well. And with tracking for the film making 7 million dollars(maybe even less) at it’s HIGHEST estimate, it’s going to spell box office doom for “Uglydolls”.
R.I.P Uglydolls
Love the new format
Thanks!
I’ve just heard that the production budget for “Uglydolls” is $45 million, which is much lower than what I was expecting. If that’s the case, then it might have a chance of actually making enough money to not contend for this list, even if it may have to depend on the film’s WW box office performance in the very end.
45 millions budget isn’t good enough against Avengers Endgame. Endgame seems like dominate all, like Detective Pikachu and John Wick 3, even Secret Of Life Pets 2 might be underperformed. If Uglydolls and Secret Of Life Pets 2 are bombed, the curse of animation film in this year is real
Secret life of pets made $870 million . It won’t underperform.
The prequel is a box office massive unknown hits. They performed well even not too many audience interest unlike this year. In 2016, you can see how many box office bombs are that. Over 10, and that budget are above 100 million USD. 25% of 2016 films are bombed regardless of condition and type films. And this year is animated films. Look how Moana, Despicable Me 2, Frozen, Finding Dory, Minions, Inside Out, Coco, Ice Age 4, Despicable Me 3, Incredibles 2, HTTYDTHW, and Zootopia can performed well (above average 700 million USD combined). Start from 2018, animated films are big threat because of box office income meltdown
In the past they are glorious. In this present they are big threat for future box office
Apparently, the “Dumbo” remake has just been removed from the pending list without getting an article here. I’m not sure why it’s no longer really contending for the list of 2019 flops, considering how it’s probably unlikely to get much higher than $327 million WW and may need more than just $340 million (which is double its reported budget) to break even (not including marketing costs) unless ancillaries are factored in.
It failed because the original was WAY too old.
Hellboy competing for crumbs on the 3rd weekend.
And “Missing Link” going missing from the box office as “Endgame” sends it down with “Hellboy.”
Is there any chance Avengers: Endgame ends up here?
I hope you’re joking, mate.
Uglydolls already release the album soundtrack. Your thoughts?
So far, I haven’t heard the soundtrack for “Uglydolls” apart from Kelly Clarkson’s song “Broken and Beautiful,” which was featured on some of its trailers. In terms of that song, I consider it to be fine (still, it didn’t really click with me that much). But even if the soundtrack gets a positive reception, I don’t think its parent film will do well at the box office at all. It will make some money and certainly out-gross “Missing Link,” but most likely won’t break even due to its release date between both “Endgame” and “Pikachu,” combined with its relative lack of buzz, the fact that it’s from a smaller studio just stepping into the animation genre, and its celebrity cast/franchise plans leading to a possibly high budget.
Still, I don’t think this year will be the curse of animated films. While I do agree that “Uglydolls” will end up like “Wonder Park” because its release date is just plain terrible, “The Secret Life of Pets 2” will still become a box office hit even if it under-performs and/or doesn’t reach the levels of its 2016 predecessor. In fact, even if “Toy Story 3” doesn’t reach a billion and “Frozen 2” ends up making less than the first “Frozen,” I don’t see this year as a “curse” for animated films as it just depends on how many of them become hits, not whether they surpass their predecessors (in the case of sequels) or break out to a massive extent (in the case of non-sequels like “Uglydolls”).
I don’t know about you guys, but I totally think Endgame looks like a bomb. Only a $300 million weekend? If it doesn’t make $350 million over the weekend, it’ll be a MAJOR flop.
Funnny that it did make 350 million
And people were wondering if theaters could even handle the capacity to $300 million.
Imagine Uglydolls and Secret Life Of Pets 2 have amazing soundtrack, but ended like Wonder Park and Lego Movie 2. Is this year is the curse of animated films if they UNDERPERFORMED?
Both have lack of interest audience, lack of promotion, but amazin soundtrack doesn’t mean massive hits
I have just discovered that “Hellboy” has lost over 70% of its theaters when “Endgame” debuted (even when it already has its article on this site), while “Missing Link” lost more than half of its theaters as well. At this point “Hellboy” may not last much longer in theaters (it may even be out by the time “John Wick 3” crosses $100 million domestic), and “Missing Link” may already be locked for this site as it’s not going to make much overseas (to add to a very poor domestic total).
So, will Thanos also snap the necks of Missing Link and Wonder Park at the box office?
Yep, it will. It has already made more than their domestic grosses from its Thursday night previews alone.
Perhaps “Endgame” may even be able to snap the neck of “Uglydolls” when that animated film opens next week, as I highly doubt that film will make more than $45 million at the domestic box office.
I think that these will be next week’s predictions:
1: “Avengers: Endgame”($120,000,000)
2: “The Intruder”($15,000,000)
3: “Long Shot”($14,500,000)
4: “Uglydolls”($10,000,000)
5: “Captain Marvel”($6,500,000)
It isn’t until the following week that “Endgame” sees it’s first true competition with “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu”. With a strong marketing campaign and very positive buzz, “Pikachu” is going to take “Endgame” off the top spot, take away pretty much all of the family audience that “Uglydolls” is trying to cater towards, and be a smash hit. I know that the film is tracking for a 70-90 million dollar opening weekend, but I can see “Pikachu” hitting the 100 million dollar mark on it’s opening weekend if it REALLY does well with critics and audiences. Go for it, “Endgame” and “Pikachu”!
Actually, I think “Dumbo” may have flopped more because of its huge budget and the lack of much nostalgia or interest to check out the re-imagining, considering how “Dumbo” is one of those properties that people remember and love but aren’t that nostalgic towards.
I was surprised to see Dumbo on the pending list until I realized Colin Farrell was in it. That dude is extremely strong box office poison-so strong, it would appear, that he can derail the mou$e hou$e’s seemingly unstoppable classic-animation-to-Live-action train.
Shame he’s box office poison since he’s a good actor overall.
“Wonder Park” had just premiered in China, where it unsurprisingly tanked at the local box office there. It had opened with just $3.3 million and likely won’t last long there (especially with “Avengers: Endgame” the following weekend), which means that the animation with an un-credited director is already a lock for this site (there won’t be any big territories to save it from becoming a costly flop at this point, so barring an over-performance in certain territories it’d probably be getting an article here eventually).
Hellboy will be posted later today and Wonder Park is up next.
Thank you for making this website! Much appreciated, I’m a box office regular and I love checking out the numbers and flops.
Thanks for the kind words!!!!!
“Missing Link” has just had a strong hold over the Easter weekend (making about $4.3 million in its second frame), although that still won’t do much for the film as it’s probably going to lose screens to “Avengers: Endgame” next weekend.
Hellboy had a 67% drop this weekend, it’s toast.
I’ve just heard from a Deadline article released back in January that the upcoming “Uglydolls” (which may be the next film added to the pending list here) is planned to be expanded into a franchise, complete with not just a TV series on Hulu but also a series of mobile/educational apps, music (obvious by the soundtrack), and merchandise. If work for the TV series was able to result in a $100 million budget for “Wonder Park,” then I’d believe that pre-planning on the franchise expansion (in addition to the celebrity cast) may cause “Uglydolls” to have a higher budget than previously thought. If that’s true, then we could find not just “Uglydolls” possibly becoming the most expensive film from STX, but maybe also a bigger bomb than “Wonder Park” and “Missing Link” due to the immense amount of money spent on its franchise planning before it even releases in cinemas.
For a film based off a toy series I know little to nothing about, that is insane. A soundtrack, a series of apps, music, AND a TV show? STX really wanted to turn it into franchise, did they? Not even “The Lego Movie” had plans as over the top as that! It’s clear that if the film flops(which is almost certain), those franchise plans would have to say “good-bye”.
I guess it depends on how far long along into production the TV show is, the DreamWorks film Turbo had a show on Netflix despite the film flopping.
In fact, it’s even possible that despite bombing “Wonder Park” may still release its TV show as planned, simply because the episodes were already well into production when the film came out.
The marketing for the film has been taking off, new toys, a tie in video game, songs, and it’s being promoted by Rotten Tomatoes. STX is really going all in.
If Uglydolls and Secret Life Of Pets 2 is bombed, this year is the curse of animated movies. Cannot performed well due to bad scheduled and lack of interest
Like most people predicted Hellboy are going to flop, well said. Even Shazam slow start they might surpasses Dumbo. Dumbo already 272 million USD. Shazam isn’t too much great income despite only 80 million USD budgets.
I wonder if UglyDolls have great soundtrack but SHIT incomes. And contacted by Detective Pikachu
Missing Link seems like a contender for the list.
Nevermind, it’s on the pending list.
You may have to first wait for the article on “Hellboy” to be added here. It’s mainly on the pending list because there’s still a chance that some other market could save it from becoming a total flop, despite a poor box office gross in North America. On the other hand, “Uglydolls” isn’t even out in theaters yet, so we can’t really make accurate predictions for its box office gross at this moment. Even if that animation is tracking to flop, it can’t be fully locked for this site until it reports its opening weekend earnings and budget, in case there’s still the chance of a surprise over-performance when it debuts in cinemas.
“Hellboy” and “Missing Link” should be added to the pending list. The former has just debuted with a low $12 million against a $50 million budget, which is not really a good sign for the film’s financial performances as foreign grosses are unlikely to bring it to at least $120 million WW (at this rate). It’s also much less than what the previous “Hellboy” films debuted with, which is a very bad start for the superhero reboot. Reception was also quite bad with critics and audiences alike, meaning that it won’t really stick around for long before it gets pulled from most theaters. On the other hand, despite good critical reviews “Missing Link” has debuted with just $6 million; the lowest start ever for a Laika animated film. Assuming that it’s budgeted similarly to other Laika films ($50-70 million), at this point it’d be lucky to even equal its production budget at the WW box office.
Added to pending!
GIMME GIMMIE BOX OFFICE FLOPPIES HELLBOY OR UGLYDOLLS
We may have to see about how China receives that film, because there’s always the chance that the film may not do well in China (which will kill any hopes of it breaking even at the box office).
Hellboy has a $50M budget. With a confirmed release in China it will reach a worldwide gross of more than the $125M that’s needed to break even.
I just hear some UglyDolls soundtracks by Various Artists. Well if they are ended like Wonder Park, it might be a major disaster for animated movies
Even The Secret Of Life Pets making shock incomes in 2016 (875 million USD), it might ended like Alice Through The Looking Glass sequels.
“The Secret Life Of Pets 2″ is going to become another huge hit at the box office, if not making more than the first film.”Uglydolls” is going to be a HUGE flop. I can guarantee that.
Hellboy is going to bomb its a garbage movie lionsgate is shit at making blockbusters
Not really. They are more hit or miss. The only blockbuster they have other than this is john wick 3.
I agree what you said Ike and Randy. It seems Hellboy 2019 are ended up like The Lego Movie 2
I won’t say that “Hellboy 2019” will necessarily end up like “The Lego Movie 2.” Not only is the reboot currently going to do worse than the “Lego Movie” sequel, but it’s also been getting bad reception and word-of-mouth from both critics and audiences alike (something that “The Second Part” didn’t get at all despite its under-performance at the box office).
Lionsgate didn’t produce Hellboy. The film itself was done by various other production companies (ex. Dark Horse Entertainment) and Lionsgate only distributed it.
Just as I predicted, Shazam > Dumbo > Hellboy
My prediction incomes. It see,s Hellboy might end up bombed due to low rate on RT. and lower than Dumbo
Missing Link and Uglydolls could perform badly due to lack of promotion even it is animated films.
I have been noticing a bunch of promotion for both “Missing Link” and “Uglydolls” while in New York City, with advertisements for the two movies appearing on train stations, taxicabs, and even some billboards in Times Square. This implies that the animated films are actually getting some sort of marketing spend (rather than being ignored completely), although they might still do badly due to competition (“Missing Link” hasn’t been received as warmly by audiences compared to critics, and “Uglydolls” will still be facing “Endgame” and “Pikachu” which may eat into its box office potential if it gets a lot of bad reviews).
So the first reviews for Hellboy came in and they’re rather underwhelming to say the least. At the time of posting this the film has a 12% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 32% on Metacritic. Not entirely sure how or if this will affect the film’s overall performance since there doesn’t appear to be much information regarding the film’s overall production costs. Since these are still early reviews there may be potential for them to rise in the future.
To my understanding, the film is based off a semi-notable graphic novel (which I am not especially familiar with) so there may be some potential for the film to succeed financially. However I’m not sure if it’s well-known enough among the general audience for it to gain a significant profit. I suppose we’ll have to wait and see.
It’s might be curtains for the 2019 version of Hellboy, as the first reviews reached 9% on Rotten Tomatoes!!! Let hear it for Missing Link!!! It’s might the Upset of the Year!!!
Any ideas on the budget of Missing Link? Wikipedia says that it is expected to make $10 million opening, the smallest for Laika.
Probably the same as Laika’s other productions. $60 million dollars.
Let we see how far Dumbo, Shazam, and Hellboy incomes until Avengers Endgame release dates. How much box office incomes you predict it? Can this three combined still above Captain Marvel alone?
Dumbo is underperforming. I don’t see hellboy doing more than 300 million. And shazam is doing decently. I don’t think they will beat captain marvel combined.
Engame has a good 2 weeks before competition hits
It seems Dumbo are already 213 million USD. I believe Dumbo could overtake Alita as well as before Avengers Endgame haul it. Despite Shazam incomes as same as Ant Man and The Wasp and Deadpool 2, Shazam is always above Dumbo as well. Look how Deadpool 2 could manage 732 million with just 110 million budget. And almost of all box office in the world after Hellboy, Dumbo theaters are harshly reduced available.
Your thoughts about Hellboy 2019?
Compare the performance of Dumbo against Alita in China and you have your answer.
Dumbo will end below Alita and flop.
Hellboy will be fine. Budget is 66M. US 70M, Rest of World minimum 140M, total 210M meaning succes.
Why so much?
1. Milla Jovovich is in it.
2. People are getting sick and tired of Marvel and want something new.
I am not sure if hellboy can even pass 50 million domestic.
I believe Hellboy will most likely be in here. I just don’t see it breaking even.
The budget is likely is similar to Shazam or Glass, and maybe Hellboy could perform like “Glass”, perhaps. So let we see in next weeks
Shazam is $100 million, Glass was $20 million, and Hellboy is $50 million. Really different comparisons for all of them.
Disney’s “Dumbo” should be added to the pending list, as it is on track to take a 60% nosedive (pretty steep for a family film) after a lower-than-expected $45 million debut. As a result, it may reach $100 million domestic, but probably not go much higher than that. Considering how it’s unlikely for the overseas box office to contribute at least $300 million to this remake, it’d likely finish well below $400 million at the very end. Had its budget been the same as “Shazam,” it will have turned a profit after crossing $200 million WW (once ancillaries are factored in). But with a $170 million production bill, mediocre reception, and the DC film tracking to steal much of its target audience, it seems unlikely that the elephant film will be able to get out of the red, which may even cause it to challenge “Wonder Park” for the biggest bomb of 2019.
I am not having all of Disney’s movies make billions because it’s too dystopic. In fact the remakes to Aladdin and Lion King might be successful, Toy Story 4 might be the last, and Jennifer Lee’s Frozen sequel could outgross its predecessor. (I’m REALLY assuming Jennifer Lee is a lesbian.)
Why add the lesbian comment? Seems really unnecessary to add to that comment.
I seen that Hilary Duff have beaten Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, in giving us her version of the Charles Manson murders, with something called The Haunting of Sharon Tate! Looks like a Real Flop to be sure of!!!
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It seems Shazam could be second lowest box office incomes in all DCEU movies, despite Shazam only cost 80 million budget. Maybe they could perform like Deadpool 2 or Ant Man and The Wasp
Your thoughts about Shazam?
The 60-75 million is my prediction of the opening weekend of Shahzam!!! I swear!!!
Shazam! has already earned about $15 million from the foreign market and it’s received relatively positive publicity prior to release. With that in mind, I doubt it’s heading into flop territory. While the DCEU has received relatively mixed reception critically, none of their films thus far have lost a significant amount of money (Justice League underperformed but isn’t considered a flop). Also, the total post-production budget of Shazam! is far closer to $100 million.
I’m going to see it tomorrow! I have really high hopes for it!
I’d love to see your review of the movie. I saw Shazam weeks ago and thought it was brilliant. DC really hit out of the park this time in my opinion. I found it very hilarious and surprisingly effective with its serious moments.
Shazam already got 53 million, only 7 millions above just Dumbo debuts in 3 days (46 million USD). Wonder if Avengers Endgame are storming in all theaters around the world, Dumbo might be below than Alita because most audience are hyped about MCU and DCEU films and 170 million budgets costs everything. Shazam can survive, otherwise can’t.
It seems Dumbo are completely flopped in box office, due to 170 million budget (same as Alita Battle Angel), 123 million box office incomes (USD) and bad release date. Despite higher than Alita, it still called bomb because Shazam and Hellboy contact in this 2 weeks, and Shazam just 80 million USD. In the next week, if Dumbo is #2 or lower in box office, still called flop because Shazam probably could get more than “US”.
Shazam can be box office success if they can perform like “Ant Man and The Wasp”
“Dumbo” has been doing decently enough at the box office, but because Disney has spent far too much making it(170 million dollars on production costs ALONE, and probably around, say, 120-130 million dollars on marketing costs), it will only end up making a small profit at best. I definitely think “Shazam!” will do well, probably even more than it’s 50 million dollar opening weekend predictions because of it’s strong critical reception. It only cost 80 million dollars to make, and I think it will make that amount back VERY quickly.
They said that Shazam! is making 45 to 50 million this weekend. HA! I hope it’ll be a lot more than that-around 60 to 75 million on a budget of 80 million!!!
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Probably not. Neither film has been receiving much buzz from their marketing so far, and they both will be released in a time when there are many films competing for their target demographic. Even when “Missing Link” will definitely get better reviews than “Uglydolls,” that film may still end up bombing because unfortunately, despite their critical praise, Laika’s films have mostly failed to break even, and the new stop-motion animation from that studio will also be opening at a time when “Shazam” (and to a lesser extent “Dumbo”) are still raking in the family audiences that it’s trying to attract.
On the other hand, “Uglydolls” is probably even more DOA than “Missing Link.” Not only is it likely to get rotten reviews from critics and audiences (based on the trailers), but it is also opening between “Avengers: Endgame” and “Detective Pikachu,” both of which are expected to be much bigger than “Dumbo” and “Shazam.” Despite its premises and the potential to break out in certain parts of Asia, I don’t think that will be enough to bring the STX animation into the black. “Endgame” and “Pikachu” are also expected to open in those regions as well, where the two blockbusters will likely crowd most of the market share and leave little room for other films to thrive. This includes “Uglydolls,” which with its likely negative reception won’t provide much of an incentive for general audiences to choose it over the bigger films in town, especially if it seems to have only been marketing itself to families with younger children (which turns away many of the adults and older kids who would otherwise be more interested in the four-quadrant “Endgame” and/or “Pikachu”).
Can Missing Link and UglyDolls could avoid box office flops? In this year, most of the animated like WP and LM2 are flopped
No. Of course not. I can definitely agree with what Dabbing Mannequins Gaming said. Both films don’t have the amount of buzz needed to generate success. “Missing Link” could get the advantage thanks to the far better critical reception(91 percent Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes) than “Uglydolls” is supposedly going to get, but none of Laika’s films since “Coraline”(which is already 10 years old, by the way) have done all that well at the box office, and I feel that “Missing Link” is going to be no exception. Both “Shazam!” and “Dumbo”(that is, if it has good legs) will take away a huge chunk of Missing Link’s family audience, and could lose money as a result.
“Uglydolls” has even more worse outcomes. Not only has the buzz it has been getting quite poor(I’m expecting the film’s reviews from critics and audiences to be REALLY bad), but with “Avengers: Endgame” and “Pokémon: Detective Pikachu” storming the box office and taking away that film’s family audience, it’s not going to be a good start for STX’s family and animation division.
Both films(especially “Uglydolls”) are suffering from huge competition from far bigger films and the lack of any buzz surrounding them. I can definitely expect both of them to be on this list at some point.
I don’t know about the general public but I love Laika’s films so I will be at Missing Link on day one.
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So Dumbo box office income has more than “Alita Battle Angel” in first week. Well Imagine if Dumbo dropped in next two weeks because Shazam and Hellboy, despite Hellboy doesn’t look like to interest audience, Dumbo could be ended up as “The BFG” which bombed in 2016. It seems Dumbo are going meltdown and might be worse than Wonder Park and Lego Movie 2 if second weekend dropped like The Crimes Of Grinderwald. The Crimes Of Grinderwald dropped because Ralph Breaks The Internet, even still higher box office incomes than Ralph Breaks The Internet.
And many people believe Dumbo could be massive success just before Shazam and Hellboy released in next 2 weeks.
It’s Disney’s big year, and I do not want Dumbo to make billions. In fact, I do not want all of Disney’s movies to make billions. Anyways, Wreck-It Ralph 2 never made billions and won the Oscar thanks to Spider Man: Into the Spider-Verse.
Yes. Not all fans want Disney movies want to make billions. it depend on audience interest, budgets, and plot story. RBTI isn’t bombed because break even despite 175 million USD. If they can perform such as “Cinderella”, it might be break even, otherwise flop.
McConaughey is 2/2 in 2019 bombs, as The Beach Bum is a lock for a future entry on this site.
Some crimes and/or films such as “MIB : International”, “Terminator : Dark Fate”, “John Wick Chapter 3 : Parabellum”, “Rambo V : Last Blood”, might be performed well as same as “Mission Impossible : Fallout”, “Johnny English Strikes Again”, “Kingsman : The Golden Circle”, and not even as Box office bomb despite they got only average 550 million USD in all of 6 films.
Well, the first of 3 days Dumbo isn’t looking bad. Even opening 3 days still lower than “Us”, they still can manage 117 million USD. But I don’t believe Dumbo can persist against “Us” in next weekend, due to Shazam this Friday release. And if Shazam could surpasses everything, Dumbo could be a big disaster, and even worse than Alita. And Hellboy 2019 might be bombed as well if underperformed due to Dumbo and Shazam. Dumbo should be learned from underperformed “Pacific Rim Uprising” in last year in order to avoid box office flop.
This weekend, Matthew McConaughey has scored his worst box office opening with “The Beach Bum,” which opened with only $1.8 million on 1,100 cinema screens. Even though its budget is just $5 million, the film has been getting mixed reviews from critics and a negative reception from audiences. Unless overseas can save the turkey by at least getting it to $10 million WW (which I highly doubt will happen), that film will probably contend for this list as another smaller-scale box office bomb in the shadow of “Dumbo” (which opened lower than expectations) and “Us.”
Some box office with low budget if bombed isn’t bad as a movies with above 100 million USD. But it still called flop no matter if they could not perform at least 175 millions USD for movies with 100 million USD or less budget.
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part and Wonder Park got bomb from box office so you can add them now.
March 2019 film debut :
CM : +=104 million USD (United States only)
US : +=70 million USD (United States only)
Dumbo : ???
Your prediction?
My prediction for Unplanned is a BIG FAT ZERO on Rotten Tomatoes and a BIG FAT F in Cinemascore!!!
Oof. That’d definitely hurt a lot.
It’s currently sitting at 58% on RT and a 6.8 on IMDB. Wether or not it dips or rises is still up to determination. Cinemascore has not added onto their site yet, although it will likely be up shortly.
I personally know very little about the box office performance of Christian films, but there is still clearly an audience for them. Pure Flix’s (Unplanned’s distributor) most notable prior release, God’s Not Dead, made approximately $64.6 million on a budget of about $2 million. Unplanned has a similarly low budget (6 million) and is also planned for wide release, so it is likely it will at least make a modest profit.
I’m not sure how much the film’s R rating will have on its performance considering a majority of the studio’s previous releases were rated PG but I suppose we’ll see.
Unplanned is surprisingly doing really well for its budget. 2nd largest opening for Pure Flix.
It’s currently sitting at 58% on RT. Wether or not it dips or rises is still up to determination. Cinemascore has not added onto their site yet, although it will likely be up shortly.
I personally know very little about the box office performance of Christian films, but there is still clearly an audience for them. Pure Flix’s (Unplanned’s distributor) most notable prior release, God’s Not Dead, made approximately $64.6 million on a budget of about $2 million. Unplanned has a similarly low budget (6 million) and is also planned for wide release, so it is likely it will at least make a modest profit.
I’m not sure how much the film’s R rating will have on its performance considering a majority of the studio’s previous releases were rated PG but I suppose we’ll see.
I’ve just heard that the budget for “Dumbo” was estimated to be $170 million, or roughly around the lowest estimates for the budget of “Alita: Battle Angel.” That’d clearly be a high bar for the remake to clear, considering how it’s been getting mixed critical reviews and isn’t really attracting much buzz compared to many other 2019 Disney films (along with the fact that even “Captain Marvel” and “Mary Poppins Returns” actually cost less to make than this). If the film has a budget that requires earning more than “Solo” worldwide to break even, then it’d have a likely chance of contending for this list because even with a $50 million opening and $150 million domestic total, overseas still may not be enough to turn this into a profitable hit (not to mention that even a slight under-performance can leave it vulnerable to bleeding a lot of red ink).
The first 3 days Dumbo can manage box office to 117 million USD, despite lower against “US” in last week (Domestic Dumbo : 45 million USD, US 70 millions USD). But it only holds #1 before Shazam and Hellboy released, although many people think Shazam can surpasses Dumbo in next week. The 170 million USD budget could be a disaster for Dumbo if they cannot performed well in second weeks due to Shazam and Hellboy in third week. If they are ended like “Alice Through The Looking Glass”, in 2016, it’d be added in this list. Even they have budget as same as “Alita”, “Alita” scheduled released isn’t bad as Dumbo despite HTTYDTHW release in next week (these both films which released in February isn’t too bad before Captain Marvel impact).
Some of the films are not deserved to has a sequels, spin-offs, or remake from old films / animated films. The reason is :
1. Budget of the films. If it was too expensive, the box office must be forced to double the budget or bombed like major 2016 films.
2. Remember Alice Through The Looking Glass and Lego Movie 2? Yeah, you know why both of them bombed.
3. Remember Solo : A Star Wars Story? Yeah, this films want to flop at box office even have 250 million budget
4. Bad graphics, animating, filming, negative word of mouth, poor performance, lack of actions, etc.
5. Remakes like AWIT, BFG, are bombed. Bumblebee doesn’t look well even isn’t box office bombs.
6. The sequels are worse than prequels in all factors.
7. The case like Justice League, 300 million budget and get only 657 million box office. Still a bomb. Reason? Solo films are better than grouping as one. (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg), and many negative word of mouth especially from Marvel and DC fans. You know some Marvel and DC fans in social media are like Tom and Jerry.
There are many reasons why film is known as Box Office Bomb :
1. Negative word of mouth
2. The graphics isn’t good at all
3. The films want to be a flop even get higher RT rate (Example : Solo : A Star Wars Story)
4. Bad scheduling release (This happen if a key movies in week 1, and another key movies in week 2. Example : Dumbo, Shazam, Hellboy)
5. Poor performance of the film
6. Lack of attracting audience
7. Lack of promotionals movies
8. For animated, similar to no.6, animated lack of programming, animating and UIs
9. The film does not have many actions, too much talking cause film boring
10. More actions does not mean good films, depend on how much the film get mixed negative word of mouth
11. The budget was too expensive, and the film with most expensive budget must forced to double the box office from budget
12. The actors lack of creativity
13. The movies does not deserve to remaked for live action. (But I think Cinderella and beauty And The Beast are major success Disney Live action movies)
Your thoughts?
Perhaps “Toy Story 4” may have a chance at reaching the levels of its predecessor if it is advertised as the final “Toy Story” installment, even if I highly doubt it can reach the levels of “Toy Story 3” unless more hype can be drummed up from its marketing.
Out of curiosity, how much of an effect does negative word of mouth tend to have on a film’s overall performance and “legginess”? Films bomb for a lot of reasons (overspending on marketing/production budget, crowded release dates, etc.) Mortal Engines and Robin Hood both were panned upon release, but their poor performance could be attributed to other factors. Are there any available statistics regarding this?
(I need to stop pretending this is a forum, Jesus Christ)
Overall, I think negative word of mouth (from audiences only) would generally cause the film to post weaker legs than expected of its genre, regardless of whether it’s more fan-oriented or not. Much of the general audience may check the reception for a certain movie before deciding to see it, and if they notice that the film is bad (according to the reviews) they may be more tempted to just skip that movie altogether. However, that case may not apply to family films (particularly animations geared towards kids), as children typically don’t read or care about audience word of mouth and would drag their parents to see the film if they are interested in it.
In the case of “Mortal Engines” and “Robin Hood,” they might have bombed due to a combination of the three factors that you mentioned, along with the fact that audiences weren’t really hyped up for them in the first place. Both films have expensive budgets, and were released in crowded time frames (“Mortal Engines” had to go up against Spider-Man, Mary Poppins, Aquaman, and Bumblebee while “Robin Hood” struggled to hold its ground against a Wreck-It Ralph sequel, Creed II, the Grinch, and the Fantastic Beasts). As well, due to their relative lack of audience interest both films posted disastrous openings upon releasing in theaters (in relation to their budgets). They didn’t post strong holds in their subsequent weeks either, as a result of not just their rotten reviews/word of mouth but also the fact that their audiences had plenty of counter-programming options that were much better-received than those big-budget flops.
There are many key movies are yet to be released, but audience isn’t hyped for that key movies. There are many reasons why audiences aren’t hyped some key films.
1. Lack of audience interest
2. Lack of promotional movies
3. The movies isn’t good at all
4. The budget is too expensive
5. The movies does not deserve a sequels. This is a major problems for film industry and audiences interest, and a meltdown of sequels films.
Guess what, I found that Toy Story 4 is going to be the final Toy Story movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pixar_films
Recently, the review embargo for “Dumbo” had dropped and it seemed like the majority of the critics posted mixed takeaways to the re-imagining (roughly 51% RT and 52 on Metacritic). While there’s the chance that audiences may respond more positively than the critics (ex. “Venom” or “Alita: Battle Angel”), there’s also the probability of audiences giving mixed-negative receptions to the elephant-starring film (although I highly doubt that will happen due to the cute nature of Dumbo). But if audience word of mouth isn’t good either, that won’t be a good sign for the film’s potential box office performance (especially with “Shazam” opening the further weekend, which despite the sheer obscurity of its title DC hero has been getting a lot of praise from its Fandango preview screenings). Therefore, if “Dumbo” under-performs heavily like “The Lego Movie 2,” it may end up contending for this list to the surprise of us (although I heard that more people were predicting this to bomb than “Lego”).
I will not have Disney be all successful with all their movies making a billion.
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In this and next year the are many sequels and remake films. But I don’t believe sequels are worse than prequel. Some sequels are a major success, some are failure. Depend on the attraction and release scheduled date. Look how many sequels in last three years why box office was lower than prequel regardless bombed or not. Some films deserve the sequels, some are not because lack of incomes even has good actions, sci-fis and programmings.
2017 : Major Remakes and New Blockbuster
2018 : Major Remakes and Spin-Offs
2019 : Major Sequels and Remakes
2020 : Major Sequels
Comparing to next year scheduled, seems the first two months are same as this year. Not many big blockbusters, but it seems next years is likely a meltdown for MCU movies. And I think films that hyped in 2020 : Wonder Woman 1984, Sing 2, Minions 2, Bond 25, Fast and Furious 9, Kingsman 3, Mulan, Avatar 2, and many other sequels are released in 2020 such as Trolls World Tour despite not all confirmed films in 2020 release.
I won’t consider all of this to be very bad scheduling, as there has been a bunch of times where multiple blockbusters were released within weeks of one another without hurting each others’ box office grosses, provided that they didn’t over-saturate the market (this is the norm for both the summer and holiday movie-going seasons). Sure, I would agree that “Hellboy,” “Dark Phoenix,” and “Dora & the Lost City of Gold” (assuming “New Mutants” goes to streaming) are in more risky release dates and prime contenders to under-perform, but if they do then it’d probably be more because of their failure to attract much interest outside of the fans (or market themselves as must-see event films), rather than their competition.
January and February 2019 film isn’t much popular as March – December 2019, the reason is key movies aren’t contacted in next week so far, and most major movies are start from Captain Marvel until end of 2019. Look in Jan – Feb 2019, only : HTTYDTHW (early release in Worldwide), Alita : Battle Angel, Glass, The Wandering Earth are only highest grossing before CM, looking for 1st quarter of 2019 so far.
If you looking out of 2019 movie schedule, it seems major / key movies are likely 25% bad scheduling due to major interest movie, such as :
Dumbo – Shazam – Hellboy
Detective Pikachu – John Wick 3 – Aladdin – Godzilla : KOTM – Dark Phoenix
Toy Story 4 – Untitled Annabelle – Spider Man : Far From Home – The Lion King
The August 2 movies : Hoobs & Shaw, Dora and the Lost City Of Gold, The New Mutants
Untitled Jumanji – Star Wars Episode IX
Your thoughts about these one week of doom schedule?
Review BOM nowaday :
WP 39 million USD
CM 915 million USD
Us 90 million USD just 3 days, starred by Lupita Nyong’o
Despite Us and Five Feet Apart have lower budget than WP, but they both still perform better than WP and Lego Movie 2
it’s before Dumbo, Dumbo 4 days remaining. Can Dumbo be better against “US?” 3 days 70 million USD “US”
“Us” targets a different audience than “Dumbo” due to its R-rating and genre (horror), so it shouldn’t pose much competition against “Dumbo.” As a result, I think the re-imagining should do fine against “Us,” even if it may not surpass the Jordan Peele-directed movie’s domestic opening.
Previous estimates claimed Dumbo would make around $75 million, so it’d outgross Us’ opening weekend by a little bit. Whether that’s the case is yet to be seen.
Comparing all big debuts in March just 3 days after the official date release in USA:
CM 104 million (close to 1 billion USD)
WP 15.8 million (bombed because of poor start despite great promotionals, especially in Indonesia)
Us 71.1 million
Dumbo 46 million (higher than Alita Battle Angel in first 3 or 4 days, but in the end can bombed because of bad release and 170 million budget (Shazam in this Friday, and Hellboy remake in next Friday), and ended like ATTLG (2016)
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At this point it may end up breaking even due to ancillary sales, even if that may not be the case if only theater box office grosses are counted. Still, at least Warner Bros can be glad that the film made a lot more than “Wonder Park,” which even with ancillaries will be extremely unlikely to get out of the red.
Even though Wonder Park bombs, it can get a TV show just like Osmosis Jones, The Emperor’s New Groove, and Mr. Peabody and Sherman.
Actually, I think “Wonder Park” will ultimately bomb harder than “The Lego Movie 2” as it’s pacing even worse than “Lego Ninjago” (in terms of box office grosses) despite having a similar budget to the “Lego Movie” sequel. Still, I don’t think the performance of these two films will mark a major meltdown for animated movies this year, as “How to Train Your Dragon 3” became a hit for Dreamworks while sequels to “Secret Life of Pets,” “Toy Story 3,” and “Frozen” are scheduled for release later this year (and are already locked to be box office hits as well). However, the same “success” factor cannot be said for “Uglydolls,” not just because of its bland marketing (and cringey trailers) but also due to its very bad release date. It’s sandwiched between “Avengers: Endgame” and “Detective Pikachu,” both of which are way more hyped and locked for much better reviews than the first animation to come out of STX’s family division. Even if the toon can serve as counter-programming for children too young to watch “Endgame,” “Detective Pikachu” will probably remove much of its audience in its sophomore outing. As a result, I may expect that animated film to bomb like “Wonder Park,” even if it will likely be more overseas-centric due to the popularity of its brand in Asia.
Speaking of “Frozen”, it’s creator Jennifer Lee had a divorce because I am hinting she’s a lesbian.
I agree what you said. In last years until now (2018-2019) it seems major animated movies are likely meltdown or underperforming. Look how “Ralph Breaks The Internet”, “Lego Movie 2”, “Wonder Park”, “Smallfoot”, “Early Man”, and many others even have best actor are underperfoming. Some most wanted this film, “Secret Life of Pets 2″, “Toy Story 4,” and “Frozen 2” are scheduled for release later this year (and are already locked to be box office hits as well). Toy Story 4 locked with MIB International and Untitled Annabelle. Secret Life Of Pets 2 are locked with this 5 films are released in these 5 consecutive weeks. (Detective Pikachu – John Wick 3 – Aladdin – Godzilla : KOTM – Dark Phoenix). Frozen 2 doesn’t look kinda bad despite they have Terminator : Dark Fate and Sonic The Hedgehog remake. So anything can be bombed as well due to bad release. “Maleficent : Mistress of Evil” could avoid that because the scheduled release does not contact with upcoming “Terminator : Dark Fate” and “Joker”.
There are many key movies are likely to be slow box income such as Godzilla : King Of The Monsters, Dark Phoenix, Dumbo, Hellboy, Joker, The New Mutants, Aladdin. I wonder if this year film can be better than last 4 years, and these 7 movies are success and get positive reviews. 2016 is the worst box office decade ever, and many are bombed. Due to high budget such as Godzilla : King Of The Monsters, maybe they could perform at least like Deadpool 2 and not as bad as Justice League and Fantastic Beasts The Crimes Of Grinderwald
Were Justice League and Crimes of Grindelwald really bombs though? They may have underperformed but I don’t recall them losing money.
“Justice League” was reported to have lost at least $50 million for Warner Bros, while “Crimes of Grindenwald” did break even (but showed disappointing returns compared to the studio’s expectations).
“Justice League” actually made money at the box office, had it not cost so much(300 MILLION DOLLARS!) to make and reshoot. And “The Crimes Of Grindelwald” did make decent numbers at the box office, but I’m glad that Warner Bros. is rethinking their five film plan, especially after the latter film made unspectacular numbers for them. And putting the “Dune” reboot in the third film’s place(November 2020) was a smart move. I’m actually looking forward to “Dune”. I may have not read the book or seen the 1984 film, but the story does fascinate me. I’ll give that a look next year.
Wonder Park is still 25 million USD opening weekend debut. It seems Wonder Park are likely to bombed as bad as The Lego Movie 2. Despite budget are 100 million, their slow incomes are likely major meltdown for animated film in this year. Wonder if Ugly Dolls could be worse like The Lego Movie 2 and Wonder Park.
And some live adapted action film such as Dora The Explorer and Sonic The Hedgehog might be same case like Wonder Park.
“Wonder Park” has pretty much been finished. Nearly 80 million dollars worldwide on a 100 million dollar budget. Expect it to be on this list soon.
And I have little to no hope for both “Dora and The Lost City Of Gold” and “Sonic The Hedgehog” doing well at the box office. The former film did look a bit better than expected, but it looks like a generic jungle adventure film, just with the “Dora The Explorer” name attached to it. Did the world even need a “Dora The Explorer” movie at all? And even though there have been no trailers for the film yet, “Sonic The Hedgehog” is already doomed. Competition from “Terminator: Dark Fate”, “Frozen 2”, “Jumanji: The Next Chapter”, and “Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker, very poor buzz, backlash from fans, and a far too costly for it’s own good 90 million dollar budget is it’s what’s going to ruin it. I’m expecting it to become a flop on par with last year’s “Mortal Engines”. Meaning that it could be the biggest flop of 2019. That’s not good news, if you ask me.
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Did Alita Battle Angel broke even? 394m as of this writing……how about the P&A Costs?
We don’t know that. Imagine Dumbo cannot surpass average Alita, Dumbo become biggest trash film ever, but I think Dumbo can surpasses Alita.
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So far, “Wonder Park” has been making numbers closer to “Lego Ninjago” despite having a similar budget to “The Lego Movie 2.” As a result, I do agree with your point simply because the under-performing “Lego Movie” sequel may at least make close to double the numbers for the director-less animated feature.
It seems this year is a nightmare for animated films. Lack of box office incomes, except HTTYDTHW
Look how Captain Marvel are outclassed in grossing in March against other movies. Two weekend are going to 800 million. Many people expected Dumbo are going to flopped due to Shazam and Hellboy release date after one/two weeks after Dumbo released in theatre. Dumbo released in next week. If overtakes Captain Marvel at debut, Dumbo are biggest success, else Dumbo are biggest box office bombs or failure. And even I think Shazam can outclass Captain Marvel as well as Dumbo meltdown in second weekend, and even I think Shazam could outgrossed The Wandering Earth as well. The Wandering Earth are China biggest success movies in this year, grossed 695 million USD. Look how HTTYDTHW are close to 475 million USD, maybe Shazam can perform as well as Venom (2018). despite low rate on RT. Look how schedule release affect all major movies to avoid box office bomb as well. The main threat is Dumbo, Shazam, and Hellboy before Avengers Endgame. Is it right everyone?
Now can you predict these 3 movies (Dumbo, Shazam, and Hellboy) and can these 3 outgrossed How To Train Your Dragon The Hidden World? And the box office this combined three still above Captain Marvel alone?
You’re delusional. Shazam, Dumbo, and Hellboy are not going to reach Captain Marvel. Shazam, maybe, but considering how the majority of non-comics fans seem to think it looks like an idiotic concept, probably won’t catch on with a broader audience. Hellboy is niche, and Dumbo will probably do better than people think, but not past $200 million domestically.
Even if “Shazam” will likely become a hit, numbers comparable to 2015’s “Ant-Man” will already make it a success for Warner Bros, and I’d still find it unlikely for the film to reach the grosses of “Thor: The Dark World” or “Doctor Strange.”
Meanwhile, despite tracking to be yet another successful remake from Disney, “Dumbo” will probably be more likely to reach a final gross near the 2015 “Cinderella” re-imagining, with a domestic opening compatible to “How to Train Your Dragon 3.”
Finally, box office tracking is currently projecting “Hellboy” to have a similar opening to “Wonder Park,” which would cause it to become a box office bomb unless it shows strong legs (even though the latter’s budget is a bit higher). But “Wonder Park” has the advantage of being an animated film geared towards families with kids, which often tends to show greater holds than live-action movies (even those that receive good reviews/word of mouth and have appeal to the four quadrants). Since “Hellboy” is R-rated and probably won’t appeal to kids or teens, it likely won’t be so leggy and will even be lucky to make as much as “Wonder Park” (which will still be a flop in the end due to its high budget).
Yes. I think Dumbo, Shazam, and Hellboy box office gross combined this three can surpass Captain Marvel alone. Captain Marvel already 800 million USD box office. Well if these three films could surpasses CM alone as well if they performed well in Box Office. They might no be reach Captain Marvel box office, but at least if the reviews get positive, these three is known as box office success, or else box office failure.
I wasn’t saying they wouldn’t be successful (except for Hellboy), I was saying that they won’t compete with Captain Marvel in the gross department.
Wonder Park are likely to be flopped due to lame income for this week. Only 24 millions USD box office revenue until now. It looks like Wonder Park are underperforming and could be worse than lego Movie 2.
Dumbo has budget of 50 mil so not flop
Guess what, Dora the Explorer has changed its name to Dora and the Lost City of Gold, and James Bobin, the man who directed the Muppets duology and Alice Through the Looking Glass is behind this. We must stop him, or PAW Patrol is history.
Well, at least “PAW Patrol” is more relevant when it comes to the content that today’s little kids would watch. It’s not like “Dora the Explorer,” where the show has since diminished in popularity among its target audience, with the last episode coming out several years ago.
And in the case of “Dora & the City of Lost Gold,” its director may be able to get temporarily sabotaged when the kid’s show adaptation hits theaters, considering how it will have to face “The Lion King” and “Hobbs & Shaw.” Due to the lack of marketing that it has so far (and its unclear target demographic), the film will likely get pummeled on all sides by its competition and end up bombing due to worse reviews and word-of-mouth, especially when there are plenty of better-reviewed counter-programming options around.
Who thought that making a Dora the Explorer movie many years after the show ended was a good idea? It’s just like how Disney released The Lone Ranger in 2013, despite people having not cared about the titular character for many years.
If we don’t stop him, Paw Patrol will be but in museums across the nation.
As Dr. Eggman would say, “Aaargh, he’s not gonna get away with this!”
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In fact, I think “Dumbo” may even be able to surpass $400 million worldwide and out-gross “Alita: Battle Angel” at the worldwide box office, due to its overall critical praise so far. With a significantly cheaper budget than the Cameron-produced sci-fi flick, it should be able to become a solid hit for Disney and be safe from contending for this list.
Disney is too successful, we need to stop everybody from watching the Dumbo remake.
Yes. As long as they can persist and outgross HTTYDTHW or Alita. But If Dumbo remake get negative word of mouth or critics because of bad graphics, Dumbo might be a big disaster such as Lego movie 2 and WP.
Yes Dabbing. The main question is can Dumbo stand apart in second weekend against Shazam and Hellboy next this two weeks released after Dumbo, or meltdown in second weekend?
You’re pretty right.
I don’t believe Dumbo can be persistent as HTTYDTHW, Glass, The Wandering Earth, and Alita Battle Angel. Many people expected Dumbo to be flopped, and I don’t believe Dumbo can be success like Beauty And The Beast (2017), or average like Mary Poppins Returns (2018) or flop like the BFG (2016), but I think Dumbo box office could above bombed Alice Through The Looking Glass
Time to add captive state and wonder park both flopped
On the weekend of March 15-17, “Wonder Park” and “Captive State” ultimately debuted with just $16 million and $3 million at the North American box office respectively.
While “Park” performed a bit better than initial estimates, its opening is still very low for a $100 million-budgeted film at just half the opening for “The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part.” Therefore, with a final presumed domestic gross of $45-60 million, “Wonder Park” is in a position where it needs very strong legs and a heavy reliance on overseas grosses just to break even. But due to its “B+” audience score (which is low for animated films) and rotten critic reviews, I don’t see strong legs for this film in the domestic box office, especially with “Captain Marvel” still flying high in its second weekend and “Dumbo” opening two weeks later. On the other hand, I still haven’t heard of any animated Paramount film that went bonkers overseas, and assuming “Wonder Park” follows suit, there’s just no way that this film will be able to double its budget, and therefore it will likely be contending for this list in a matter of time.
Meanwhile, “Captive State” fared even worse than “Wonder Park” at the box office with a lower opening over a budget of $25 million. Having a very poor “C-” on CinemaScore and mediocre reviews from critics, it’s already dead on arrival in North America. It’d likely take sharp falls in its second weekend before losing most theaters by its third weekend, likely closing its domestic box office run with less than $7 million. Plus, the thriller won’t fare well overseas either, and I’ll be surprised if it manages to make more overseas than domestically. As a result, we may see this contending for the 2019 bombs list alongside “Wonder Park” very soon.
Never mind. The two aforementioned are already contending for BombReport as shown above.
So Captive State seems to be performing similarly to Kin. Bad opening ($3M vs $3.2M), bad domestic total on a moderate budget ($30M vs $25M). I’m expecting massive drops and a short BO run, then.
If Wonder Park could be persistent as Alita, it can be avoid box office bomb.
Wonder Park was only made because there was a TV show already in production. I guess they wanted context and to pull a Jimmy Neutron and Barnyard. Wonder Park was a total mess.
If only the budget had been cheaper, then that could have been a success.
All the characters from our failed movies over here will love to have fun in your “Wonderland,” even if the general audience doesn’t care about it.
Wonder Park, come join our club.
Remember Alice Through The Looking Glass?
Remember The Lego Movie 2?
Yeah, welcome to our club Wonder Park and Dumbo (expected)
Movies are adapted from franchise, anime, manga, video game can be avoid box office such as Tomb Raider 2018 depend on the performance and interest. Dragon Ball Super Broly (Japan), Detective Pikachu (Japan), Sonic The Hedgehog (Japan), Godzilla : King of the Monsters (Japan). The first Godzilla and Kong ; Skull Island still above average but does not too impressive despite high production costs. Resident Evil as example is the major box office success from video game adaptation.
Wonder Park are now 100 million USD budget. I’m not sure this movies such good as HTTYDTHW, or might be bad as Lego movie 2 . Even ugly Dolls could be flopped.
I’m sure that movies like Joker, Shazam, Dark Phoenix, The New Mutants could be not as bad as Justice League due to DCEU movies has BIG MOUTH of criticized. Maybe they can be as success as Ant Man and the Wasp and Deadpool 2.
If I was to judge “Wonder Park” based on the trailers alone, I’d probably consider it to be worse than “The Lego Movie 2,” with a possible reception below even “The Lego Ninjago Movie.” In terms of financial performance, I think it will likely do worse than the failed “Lego Movie” sequel but still better than “Uglydolls” (if their budgets aren’t taken into consideration) at the domestic box office, since at the very least its marketing seems to be over a wider range of mediums than the STX film (“Park” even got some footage shown around the Super Bowl, despite the fact that its target audience most likely isn’t into watching sports), and “Captain Marvel”/”Us” won’t serve as much brutal competition compared to “Avengers: Endgame”/”Detective Pikachu.”
In terms of the superhero/antihero movies, I think “Shazam” will probably become another success for Warner Bros as its review embargo had dropped last week with a lot of praise from critics, and “Dark Phoenix” can at least perform like “Alita” worldwide due to strong interest from China (the Middle Kingdom has contributed a lot of views to its trailers, even if it’ll likely under-perform and debut below Illumination’s “Secret Life of Pets 2” in North America). Meanwhile, “Joker” can go either direction and become a smash hit or major flop, but if audiences love it then the film can have a solid performance when it releases this October, even with bad reviews from critics (no need for “Venom” numbers to become a success). However, it seems like “New Mutants” may be the most destined to fail out of the four films, as it has had a very troubled production since its announcement in 2017 and kept getting its release date pushed back. There’s a chance that Disney may just cancel this project or drop it on video streaming networks once it completes the Fox merger, but if it gets dumped into theaters the box office return may not be very good.
Example : Bond 25 and Kingsman : The Great Game. Both pushed into next year. There are some movies that pushed or delayed into next year or next month or next time, depend of the development and film project
Along with Wonder Park, I think that Captive State is going to end up on this list too. I just don’t forsee a future where it will break even on its $25 million budget. I have seen very little marketing for it until this past week.
Here’s something you have never heard of that coming out this weekend: Nancy Drew and the Hidden Staircase. No budget reported, a no-name heading it, and number of theatres unreported, and barely any P&A!!! All because Warner Bros. is throwing it out unannouced to compete with not only Captain Marvel , but, also Wonder Park!!!
Lol I kind of want to see it now.
I don’t believe Dumbo and Wonder Park can surpass Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel likely had an amazing debut incomes, and if Dumbo and Wonder Park is bombed at box Office, it might be a biggest disaster of Nickelodeon and Disney. Dumbo is now 78 years old
“Dumbo” may still have the potential to succeed at the box office due to the reactions from its trailers, but it likely won’t get close to the numbers of “Captain Marvel.” On the other hand, I agree that “Wonder Park” will probably become a very huge flop for Nickelodeon, simply because it’s budget is way too high and that I expect it to perform even worse than “LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part.”
Dumbo is estimated to make $75 million in its first weekend in the U.S. If they kept the budget at a decent amount, it probably won’t be a bomb.
Yeah, as long as Dumbo can be learn from bombed BFG and AWIT and Dumbo must gross at least 450 million like Mary Poppins Returns to avoid box office bomb. I think some animation films can be flop such as Lego movie 2, Wonder Park, even Ugly Dolls could be flop.
Don’t forget these potential animated bombs as well:
-“Missing Link” (This film is quite suitable for families with kids, but stop-motion animation hasn’t been doing well at the box office these days)
-“Playmobil” ($75 million budget but not enough hype or interest from its trailers to generate box office numbers of at least $150 million WW)
-“Angry Birds 2” (I think the first “Angry Birds” profited because of initial IP curiosity and interest, and it might be a one-time novelty that can’t be replicated by its sequel, which may become a minor bomb if the drop-off is very large over a larger budget + marketing spend)
Yes. There are many animated movies might be bombed ad well, depend on the budget. The higher the budget, the more box office incomes to avoid flop. Toy Story 4 and Frozen 2 could be a major success. Missing Link, Ugly Dolls and Playmobil should be at least 250 million box office to avoid bombed. There are many underperformed animated film such as Ralph Breaks the Internet, Cars 3 but still avoid box office bomb list. Both of these movies are 175 million USD budget and box office is under 500 million USD, despite get higher percentage in RT. Even Smallfoot have under 100 million USD but still average
Alita still needs to make a lot of money still. Just barely gross more than it’s budget, see it was definitely advertised a lot.
I dont think Alita will be on the list. the movie has already made $ 370mn with $170 Budget. Seems like did okayish
I personally did not like the movie anyways.
Apparently Alita needed to gross around 300-500 million just to break even, what with all the special effects and promotional material. Doesn’t look like it’s going to be a massive bomb but the return is somewhat underwhelming.
Saw the film with some friends, it was fine. It’s not really the sort of film you watch to gain any sort of thought-provoking value. I guess it’s an alright popcorn flick if you’re into that sort of stuff but it’s not something I’d really watch again.
They are already considering a sequel so it’s not a flop
Have you ever learn about The Mummy Tom Cruise, Justice League and The Great Wall Matt Damon?
Even The Mummy grosses 400 million and Budget is 195 million, is called a “FLOP”
and The Great Wall grosses 330 million and Budget is 120 million, is called a “FLOP”
and even Justice League grosses 657 million and Budget is 300 milllion, is still a “FLOP”
Well if you don’t flashback about 2016-2017 movies. So awful. I think Alita can learn about those 3 flopped movies to avoid box office bomb. Imagine if Dumbo and Godzilla : King of the Monsters both FLOPS due to big budget!
There are many underperforming movies but still not a flop, and vice versa. Look in 2016 and 2017 movie list. Those two years are biggest box office bomb in a year. Example is Justice League and Fantastic Beasts : The Crimes of Grinderwald
It did okay for itself in the end box office wise. It’s still certainly going to hit the 400 million dollar mark at the worldwide box office, if not more than that. It’s not sequel gaining numbers, but FAR better than expected. It WAS the last film Fox released before getting acquired by Disney… …so at least it wasn’t a bad way to end their legacy as a stand alone company.
Put Miss Bala on Pending list. It has a $15 million budget and only grossed $14 million so far.
It has a couple of markets left on March and april. And one on December 31.
Should Lego 2 be on pending,it’s on track to make less then 100million foreign and will most likely only have 110-120 domestically
It’ll be interesting to see if LEGO Movie 2 is destined to make it onto the site. It’s certainly underperforming, but perhaps maybe not enough to be called a bomb.
Love the site btw. Don’t listen to the clown on the 2018 page who claimed you took kickbacks to keep movies off the site. I think anyone with an IQ over 90 knows you’re just one dude doing this in his spare time.
I don’t think 2018’s “Predator” film was really contending for 2018’s list of box office bombs until some time after it had a disappointing opening in the U.S., as for a while it seemed like the film would eventually double its budget (but it ultimately did not). Perhaps like with “Predator,” we may just have to see what “The Second Part” will eventually make in terms of box office grosses, of which it may get added to the 2019 list if Warner Bros ends up reporting a net money loss on the picture (or taking a write-down).
It may be a few weeks early, but the first 9-digit box office money loser for this year will likely be Paramount’s “Wonder Park.” With a $100 million budget and very low amounts of relative hype or interest, this film may probably only earn about as much as “Mortal Engines” worldwide.
And in the case of a “9-digit loser,” I mean a box office bomb that cost at least $100 million to produce and market.
Looking at nowaday box office condition, Wonder Park is likely as same as The Lego Movie 2 disaster. Alita could be avoid box office bomb despite HTTYD 3 release early in certain country. Nowaday HTTYD and Alita are going to 350 million. The only good movies start in March 2019, which many people around the world can’t wait for fancy movies. Dumbo I don’t believe they will be major success such as Beauty And The Beast or Mary Poppins even Mary Poppins could only 400 Million USD
If you are asking about cold pursuit, it has a handful of markets left. The last one will be in April. Those markets aren’t known to be money makers tho, and against apparantly a 60 million dollar budget. This should’ve been in the pending list by now.
What about Cold Pursuit
Only made $30 million
Is a marketing budget listed anywhere for it? That could help determine how much it needs to break even.
Regardless, it’s been in release for 15 days and it’s only made a little more than half its initial budget. Definitely looks like it could be a financial failure.
I mean, it’s more of an international film. It doesn’t need to make big bucks here, it needs to make big bucks overseas. The Commuter didn’t do great in the States, but it made back its budget anyways.
It’s reminds me of Run All night. Which had underperform, also how Edge Of Darkness was an disappointment due to the Mel Gibson controversy. Same probably gonna happen to Liam.
Did The Lego Movie 2 fail?
Might be difficult to determine at this point considering it may still have to open in certain foreign markets. However, the film has definitely has fallen below expectations. The Ninjago spin-off film they released two years back didn’t do especially well so I suppose this isn’t that much of a shock.
If the budget estimate made by the L.A. Times is correct (around $99 mil) the film may be more likely to lose money.
It hasent opened in japan
It wont make that much in Japan. All the previous ones have made around 1 million. It has 4 markets left to open as of the time writing this. Japan is its last market in the 29 of march. The movie internationally will make less than 100 million. It has a decent chance of flopping.
The Kid Who Would Be King outright died in its own country. $856k in the UK this weekend, placing #6.
It’s probably going to make the list, unfortunately.
If not even the United Kingdom can save this film from the list, then which country can be able to do just that? I don’t think any of the remaining countries that this film will release in can be “worthy” enough to pull it out of the rock of box office bombs, so perhaps we should just accept this as the first big box-office bomb for 2019 (and also the first family-targeting movie that bombed this year).
It still has some places to go. Mostly in march and april. The last market is in june. It has a slim chance, but I doubt it will make its money back.
I don’t believe Lego 2, Alita, Dumbo, STH, Dark Phoenix, Hellboy can be box office success. Look at the first 2 months of box office. Worst box office income ever in history if we comparing other years. Even How To Train Your Dragon only 130 millions in world wide before released in NA.
In Chinese New Year, there are many fancy films such as Deadpool and Black Panther are a major success. However, in 2019 are mostly low rated. Start from March, this is likely a biggest box office challenges, which all great movies are unexpected to flop, and unwanted movies are major success. March – end of 2019 has great movies, but can they avoid box office bomb? The question is it
What’s STH
Sonic the Hedgehog
I hope that disgrace of a film flops it looks so bad
You may have left out some other movies that may not be box office successes this year – “Wonder Park,” “Uglydolls,” “Dora the Explorer,” “New Mutants” (although there’s a chance that this film may be dumped onto streaming services instead), “Artemis Fowl,” and “Playmobil.” None of these films have been generating the respective amounts of hype needed to succeed (in relation to their presumed budgets), and some like “Uglydolls” are even positioned at risky dates where they might get cannibalized by the competition surrounding them.
Are we too late to cancel live live action Dora the Explorer?
We can’t know for sure until they get released.
Alita looks to open at #1 with 29 million $.
Comparing to Lego Movie, Alita, and HTTYD 3, only Alita and HTTYD 3 are likely yet to avoid box office bombs.
However, “Alita” may need HUGE grosses and legs to avoid contending for this list, regardless of its praise and over-performance (compared to projections). Let’s hope that the sci-fi blockbuster can overcome its hurdles and become the first official “surprise” hit for this year, rather than a lock for this list.
It has zero competition only aquaman witch is 2 months old already and how to train your Dragon is for family’s and doesn’t appeal to the blockbuster audiences who like to see big budget films with a lot of cgi
Until captain marvel comes out it has few similar movies to compete with
I know 2019 will be a big year for Disney, but I do not want all of their movies to be successful. In fact, the Dumbo remake looks pretty horrible, so please, tell Disney to cancel Genies, James and the Giant Peach, and possibly a remake to Lilo and Stitch. Also, Ignore Toy Story 4, don’t look forward to it.
The only one that I think looks outright terrible from Disney this year is the Aladdin remake. Everything else looks like fine to me.
Especially with the TERRIFYING Will Smith Genie. I don’t have much hope for the upcoming “Aladdin” remake.
“What are we? Some kind of Bluicide Squad?” xD
Why would they cancel all of these projects? Major studios tend to prioritize a film’s financial potential at the box office over the film’s actual quality, and a majority of Disney’s live-action reboots have been relatively successful in that regard. I highly doubt any of these projects will be cancelled unless there’s some sort of behind-the-scenes issues at the studio.
Why doesn’t BOM have a budget listed for Lego Movie 2?
Apparently the budget is $99 million.
Thanks.
If that’s true, it’s heading for flop city.
Yep. The movie needs money from the overseas markets.
I don’t think Serenity’s going to improve overseas, so it deserves its official spot on the list.
Alita Battle Angel feels like a lock for The Report. The ad campaign has been surprisingly muted for a $200 million+ flick, perhaps signaling a stinker, or even if it winds up being good, a movie that no one will see regardless of the marketing, so why throw good money after bad.
Well on YouTube I keep seeing ads for it
I see ads on youtube
I saw a crap ton of commercials, especially during football.
Stinker? Nonsense!
It will make more than 600M WW and needs 425M to break even.
If you think this is going to be a flop, you’re disqualified to ever guess again.
It will likely gross 200 mil in China alone these box office predictors said the meg aquaman and venom would flop the latter 2 were massive successes
Venom are expected to be flop and The Crimes of Grinderwald are expected to be success. Reality? Venom are major success, 875 million USD, and despite Grinderwald 253 million debut does NOT mean a success, and it considered as flop despite only 653 million. The reason is the Fantastic Beasts sequels has less action, and too much TALK and lack everything. Not too much big action in that sequels. Even 35% in Rotten Tomatoes more then Venom, Still consider as “FLOP”
Venom and aquaman were supposed to flop but became surprise hits
It seems like “The Lego Movie: The Second Part” is set to disappoint with a $40 million dollar U.S. opening, despite its critical praise. Let’s hope it doesn’t end up bombing from “franchise fatigue” following the disappointment of “The Lego Ninjago Movie” back in 2017. Otherwise, the film may end up contending for this list, which would be a bad sign for Warner Bros if they still want to continue the franchise.
I’m happy the franchise is dying. Warner milked a mediocre movie that everyone seems to love for some reason that is beyond me into an entire franchise. Maybe they’ll finally end it.
What kind of animated movies do you like? I’m just curious because you also didn’t care for Into the Spider-Verse. Maybe you just don’t care for Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s writing. They also did 21 and 22 Jump Street if you were curious.
You are correct, I don’t care for Phil Lord and Chris Miller. Cloudy with A Chance of Meatballs was a creative failure, both Spider-Verse and Lego Movie were okay but severely overrated. I’ve meant to watch the Jump Street flicks, but for one reason or another I haven’t got to them.
I enjoy stop-motion a great deal, but Laika hasn’t really interested me with most of their films. Most Disney and Pixar films are pretty good, I enjoy some indie animation films, Dreamworks Animation is a mixed bag, anime is garbage, and the less we talk about Blue Sky and Illumination the better.
I didn’t like the Lego movie ether and spider verse was good but overrated
You’re definitely in the minority if you didn’t like Lego Movie 1.
Oh I know, but there are a few of us, and I think I know a disproportionate amount.
It’s actually going to only end up getting a 30 million dollar opening weekend. It’s decent enough for a more smaller film, but VERY disappointing for a film like this. Which is too bad. The film DID get good reviews from critics(85 percent Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes), and had a 4,000+ theater release, AND was actually tracking to do well on it’s opening weekend(45-55 million dollars)! What happened? Did “The Lego Ninjago Movie” give viewers NO FAITH in the “Lego” film series after it flopped? Was there too much family competition(“Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse” is still playing in a several theaters, and “How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World” is coming out in two weeks)? Not to mention that the film has a 100 million dollar budget, too. I just hope it has a long life at the box office, like it’s predecessor(“The Lego Movie”) and “The Lego Batman Movie” did. Otherwise, we can say “good bye” to any new “Lego Movie” films.
Another factor to keep in mind is the many direct-to-DVD Lego movies that exist so oversaturation may have a factor in the weaker opening weekend as well.
I can also see that, too. Too many options these days.
Tristan Michels : Not to offense of the showtimes, but these two months are likely box office of disaster. The incomes are not as good as last year in first two months. Many of most wanted movies in this year are start from March 2019, which starts from Captain Marvel. It might be a major pressure in box office. Wonder how shit Rotten Tomatoes always give shit rates. Lego Movie 2 has 85% on RT but shit incomes, even HTTYD 3, are yet to release in US, just got 98% and only 130 million USD in all world before US. Is the Rotten Tomatoes are not experienced in a film? Or just only give higher percent in movies such as “MCU”, great animation movies except live action, ?
We can say “good-bye” to any new “Lego Movie” films now. It made a little over 180 million dollars worldwide, which is terrible results for a film that cost 100 million dollars to make. May very well be called “The Lego Movie 2: The Last Part”. I’m very sad about that, I really enjoyed “The Second Part” quite a lot. Even if it paled slightly to “The Lego Batman Movie” and paled to the first film(and yes, I still haven’t seen “The Lego Ninjago Movie”. Now that I think of it, do I even want to watch it?). Definitely going to be on this list for sure, sadly.
It might be around 30 million to be exact. This hopefully has legs, and maybe overseas will help it out.
Didn’t see all them replies. Dang
I wonder if a film such as : Dumbo, Aladdin, Star wars : Episode IX, The Lion king, Dora the Explorer, Sonic the Hedgehog are flop after a release
Musical movies such as Beauty and the Beast, 2 years ago are major success despite many people claims “the actor has too much singing than their action.”
Even I wonder film such as : Artemis Fowl, Lego Movie 2, Dora the Explorer, are flop
The Lego Movie 2 is not going to flop. Artemis Fowl probably has the best chance of doing that from the list you provided.
There’s also the chance that “Dora The Explorer” may bomb in addition to “Artemis Fowl,” although possible nostalgia from its former kid audience may end up saving it (or just sheer curiosity about it like what happened to “The Emoji Movie”). But even if that breaks even, “Dora” may still end up as a possible contender for some Razzie awards as I don’t really expect it to score well with critics and audiences.
Well, it’s underperforming at the very least.
Yeah, if The Lego Movie 2 doesn’t pick up the slack after this weekend, How to Train Your Dragon 3 is going to bring in a lot of that family audience money in a few weeks.
Imagine if Dumbo was released, and that case is as same as Alita Battle Angel, it might be a worst Disney movies ever. Have you ever hear “BFG”, “AWIT”, “TN&TFR”, higher rate on RT but loss over 70 millions USD?
This week is going to be good at the boxoffice. A pretty diverse wide releases – Action, Animation, Horror, Comedy every movie with at least 2500 Screens.
Should be fun how it tackles and think at least one of them is going to land here.
Well, I was already predicting that Cold Pursuit was gonna flop because of its competition but now that there is controversy over Liam Neeson’s interview, it’s likely going to be DOA.
I think it’ll do well enough internationally that it’ll justify itself. The Commuter didn’t do great in the U.S., but it did well enough overseas that it made a profit.
I was thinking the controversy around the movie is going to earn it a lil more than expected just bcoz the controversy atleast created some buzz around the movie and that also he openly stated that he was ashamed of the act, i dont think nobody will call for a boycott. “JUST SAYING”
I personally do not have as much of a problem with what Liam Neeson said because he didn’t act upon his hateful attitudes, admitted that he was wrong, and learned from it. Honestly, shouldn’t we commend people for learning from their mistakes? If we don’t, people won’t have any incentive to analyze their behavior and right their wrongs. That’s just my two cents, though. I thought Cold Pursuit looked like a kickass action flick when I saw a trailer for it months ago.
Totally agree with that.
I wish that the remake to Dumbo should bomb, because it’s predecessor,Christopher Robin was terrible.
Wishing the same !!! Disney is just taking all weak scripts and making them movies . . . thinking we all wud watch them anyways just bcoz its Disney.
However, it seems like the majority of Disney’s live-action bombs are original movies that don’t serve as sequels, prequels, or re-imaginings of existing Disney properties (with some exceptions like “Solo” or “Alice Through the Looking Glass”), and the CGI remakes particularly tend to draw in lots of cash due to nostalgia from adults who grew up with their animated counterparts. As a result, it’s possible that “Dumbo” may end up turning a modest profit at the very least (although last year’s “Christopher Robin” and “Mary Poppins Returns” did end up with box performances that were okay, but not great in relation to their budgets).
I can definitely see “Dumbo” doing well at the box office. Even if it doesn’t turn out to be good.
The only way I could see Dumbo not doing well at the box office is if Wonder Park somehow becomes an unexpected huge success.
I’m doubtful “Wonder Park” is going to do well at the box office. It is already tracking for an 8-10 million dollar opening weekend. Did I mention it cost 100 million dollars to make? I think competition from “Captain Marvel”, “Us”, and “Dumbo” is what’s going to ruin it at the box office.
Glass – Already at $170 mn Worldwide with plenty of territories to open. Guess this is a good jackpot with $20 mn budget and $10mn P&A.
PS : Split did better, $260 with $9 mn budget & $ 6 mn P&A
A lot of people I know aren’t seeing it since they haven’t “caught up” by watching Unbreakable.
Apparently, Anne Hathaway and Matthew McConaughey are really mad about Serenity’s release being botched, and Aviron basically fired back that they couldn’t make it a success even if they spent a lot of money on it. I wonder if this’ll have any negative effects for Aviron going forward.
Only $5.4 Million in its first six days in wide release (over 2500 screens) definitely means it’s a contender to be a bomb.
Hathaway is overrated. McConaughey on the other hand has the firepower to make sure anyone at Aviron who may have legitimately screwed him over will not get meaningful work again.
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You have to add Serenity. With it crashing and burning both financially and critically, along with having one of the most stupid endings I’ve ever heard of, it deserves a spot. A little bummed Kid Who Would Be King is bombing. A lot like mid-2000s kids flicks.
Mojo says Replicas has made a profit of approximately 20.6 million dollars (a figure less than the film’s budget of 37.5 mil). Apparently, the overall marketing cost for the film was slightly less than 30 mil. Not sure if this counts as a bomb considering the STX buyout but it seems worth keeping tabs on.
STX wasn’t involved with Replicas. Entertainment Studios was and got the distribution rights for a low enough price that I think leads them to a loss but not a catastrophic one. The film itself as a whole definitely is a bomb though.
I think they got Replicas mixed up with The Upside, which did have a $37.5 million budget and was bought by STX.
Yeah, you’re right. Don’t know how that happened.
budget for The Kid Who Would Be King is 59 million dollars.
Time for Serenity. It got a D+ on Cinemascore too!
Replicas dropped over 80% and has made $3M so far, I think it’s the year’s first flop.
The Kid Who Would Be King has made 822,000 dollars so far but i can’t find a budget.
What I’m shocked at is how good the reviews are. Absolutely incredible.
Add Replicas worst opening in 2,000 theaters
Don’t know where you got that, but that is simply not true. It’s the 24th worst. Oogieloves still claims #1.
box office mojo said when i first looked on the actuals that Repilcas opened with 300,000 dollars but now it says it opened with 2 million dollars. Hmm
Surprised The Upside is doing well..
2019 Box Office Flops:
Replicas
The Kid Who Would Be King
Serenity
Miss Bala
Alitta: Battle Angel
Captive State
Chaos Walking
Missing Link
Dora the Explorer
Artemis Fowl
Gemini Man
Terminator 6
Charlie’s Angels
Sonic the Hedgehog
Super Intelligence
Wonder Park
Where’d You Go, Bernadette
Hellboy
UglyDolls
Poms
Stuber
Good Boys
The Kitchen
Midway
The Good Liar
I’m not even sure when “Chaos Walking” is even going to come out, thanks to the reshoots. “The Kid Who Would Be King” is going to end up being a well reviewed film(82 percent Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, 70 percent on Metacritic) that ends up doing badly at the box office thanks to poor marketing, “Artemis Fowl” will end up being the ONLY film in Disney’s MASSIVE 2019 that’s going to lose money for them, “Missing Link” will end up being another Acclaimed Flop for Laika, “Alita: Battle Angel” will be a MASSIVE flop for Fox after getting it’s release date moved TWO TIMES, and “UglyDolls” will end up being a poor start to STX’s animated division.
The jury is still out on the “Dora The Explorer” and “Sonic The Hedgehog” films. The former could end up being REALLY TERRIBLE, or REALLY GOOD(but let’s face it, was ANYONE ASKING FOR A FILM BASED OFF “Dora The Explorer” ANYWAY?), and the latter could depend on if the design works out for fans. And it has a 90 million dollar budget. We’ll see.
Alita’s James Cameron. Never count him out. Avatar was supposed to be a tremendous flop, and we all know how that turned out.
It has 61 percent Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. It has gotten perfectly okay reviews from critics, but I still think it will end up becoming a flop. “Avatar” was also supposed to be a FLOP as well, but the strong feedback it got from critics and audiences and the results it got from the 3D showings really kept the film alive for a long time, explaining why it became the highest grossing film of ALL TIME, with 2.7 BILLION dollars. I doubt that’s going to happen with “Alita”. Fox has already delayed the film TWICE, so is there any faith there?
“Alita: Battle Angel” looks to be a mega-flop. That saddens me to say because the film looks promising so far. James Cameron wrote and produced the film, so I’m sure it will get good reviews. However, since it’s adapting a beloved manga, the audience for said manga is probably small. For a film that costs $200 million to make, that’s alarming.
The Upside looks like it is going to open at #1 this weekend with about $18-19 million. If it holds well and does decent overseas, it could at least break even. Replicas is toast. It’s opening at $2-3 million and with a $30 million budget, I think it’s safe to put it on the list.
Tough one, the movie cost the distributor 4M for US distribution
My vote for the First Big Flop of 2019 is for the Upside. Not only it’s a Memorial Tribute to the Weinsteins, but, also for Kevin Hart’s bad timing (Due to his decade-old Tweets).
The Upside was bought by STX from the bankrupt Weinstein Studios.
it’s unknown how much they paid for it so impossible to call it a bomb.
This hasn’t aged well.
I would say Alita’s going to flop, but I can never count out James Cameron. The man makes obvious bombs turn into gold.
GIMMIE GIMMIE BOX OFFICE FLOPPIES UPSIDA OR ALITA
I can easily predict Chaos Walking to be a mega-flop. The signs are clearly there: cost and time overruns, negative press, reports on on-set drama and injuries, etc. Also, no trailers or posters for the film yet, and it’s scheduled for a March 1 release! Not a chance is the film gonna make the deadline. I’ll be surprised if it even gets released by the end of the year.
Yeah, and while Daisy Ridley and Tom Holland are well-known for Star Wars and Spider-Man, I doubt they can pull in a huge audience based on their names alone. Also, Chaos Walking is a $100 million YA sci-fi movie and those haven’t had the greatest track record since The Hunger Games movies finished their run.
Replicas probably gonna go VOD. Might be Serenity
“Replicas” screams “January dump” and may be the first to bomb.